Could you gentlemen tell me what you think of this Luft/FJ reversible camo outfit, please? It's the exact same style as pictured in "German Soldiers of WWII" on pages 56-57. I want to sell it, so could you give me a ballpark estimate of a fair price? One of the shoulder straps is torn, and when I got it, the two shoulder straps were tied together "hillbilly style" so that only one strap went over one shoulder. It has sewn repairs and was definitely worn. The green jacket side is somewhat more faded than the trousers. One glass button is broken in half, but the threads hold the two halves together. I would appreciate any info you could provide. Thanks.
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I think it may actually be Hungarian. If I remember correctly the German set had cloth waist tie, and the Hungarian had one made of rope.Comment
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If its identical to the one in "German Soldiers of WWII" on pages 56-57 than it is indeed a Hungarian made one. Is there a Hungarian depot stamp on the inside of one of the pocket flaps?
Hungarian based on the color and draw string (some used metal grommets where the string feeds through!
Compare with my (non quilted) Hungarian example and others in this thread;
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ungarian+parka
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There is what appeared to be a "B" in a circle stamped in one pocket. If it's Hungarian, that SUCKS! How could such a reputable publication make such a mistake?Comment
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Quilted type (often described as LW)Originally posted by jvanzo View Post
Mistakes in such books happen because these "experts" are just collectors like anybody else, sharing their expertise/knowledge in a book...like we do on a forum...
Other mistakes in that book besides p56-57 are:
p.92 -93 fake Flemish shield, P122-123 the M44 tunic is actually a wehrmacht one with triangular ghost (stitchmarks) of late war Heer breast eagle clearly visible...so re-badged for Walloon Waffen SS, p.124 Nederland Gunner with Dachau pattern sleeve shield... no period images exist of these shields ever being worn... another creation it appears...but other than that good reference material!
Non quilted type:
Also Spanish author Augustin Saiz in his uniform and equipment reference book "Deutsche soldaten" shows in his publication the non quilted version of this Hungarian parka set (on 2,5 pages with 9 images!!!) and again describing it as being German...a standard (early non splinter) wende parka... Note same Hungarian drawstring cord here with metal grommets...see red arrows, (also in the hood, never seen on German made parkas) this non quilted version being an improved later design. These are also a lot heavier than German versionsLast edited by NickG; 07-11-2010, 08:01 PM.Comment
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It's the same thing for the pictures in Militaria Magazine we can see on the sale thread. This magazine was full of crap. Most of it was coming from a well know shop near Paris at that time.Comment
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I agree with you being angry about the misleading article in Miitaria Magazine, pointing collectors in the wrong direction but on the whole I think the magazine is very reputable, detail orientated and resourceful
publication, a leader in its field.
This being said, the inclusion of this uniform is unacceptable unless FJ's were really issued this specific Hungarian jacket at some time... Is there anyone out there who know's of that allowance?
Secondly, I have heard that the Hungarian Jacket is rather rare in itself....Comment
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