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    Me 109G - What's this bag for?

    Hi,

    anyone has an idea what this bag is for? Marked with "Me 109G" and the serial no. (Werknummer) 14233, so it must be for this specific aircraft (14233 was a G-6, by the way). If it is genuine.

    All opinions welcome.















































    Have a nice evening,
    Steve
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    Got a PM from a guy who told me that most likely the tarpaulins which were delivered with every aircraft were stored in such bags.

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      #3
      Hmmmm...

      By me a post-war garnement, upgraded with a gorgeous writing...

      I don't remember a wartime RiRi with this kind of writing also...

      IMHO!

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        #4
        Yes, the guy who told me about the tarpaulins also finds the writing suspicious ...

        He was not completely sure about this bag, only said that the tarpaulin bags were very similar.

        Anyway, it's only an ebay item and I was just curious what it could be.

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          #5
          Originally posted by frank savage View Post
          I don't remember a wartime RiRi with this kind of writing also...
          At a more accurate reading, the writing on zipp slider could be right... Maybe compatible with some early zipp writing.... I don't know... But I think is post-war made.

          By the rest, I'm still on the below-mentioned position: 'strange' unidentificated bag with ugrading writing... well actually for a Me109!!

          Jos... what do you think about it?

          Cheers!

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            #6
            This bag is wartime original in all parts.

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              #7
              IMO the writing could be period even if it should read correctly Bf109G - perhaps marked in the field.

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                #8
                I always thought "Me"109 was an American term and never used in Germany?

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                  #9
                  Officially it was the Bf 109, but later products of this manufacturer actually were marked with the abbreviation Me like the Me 163 or Me 262. It's just easier to say "Me" than "Bf" in German, so in spoken language the term "Me 109" was also adopted (and of cause also used in written language after some time).

                  By the way, the bag went for 38,50 Euro.

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                    #10
                    Interesting Mr. Ram Jet,

                    When do you think it changed over from Bf to Me in Germany?

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                      #11
                      ...

                      I cannot speak to the date of any changeover but this book is in my collection -- a wonderful Hoffmann book that is copyrighted 1941.

                      Full of photos of the aircraft during construction and operation.

                      Mike
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                      Collecting mint condition Imperial German uniforms, visor caps, and Pickelhauben.

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                        #12
                        Another observation ...

                        I have several texts here on Luftwaffe aircraft. It is interesting to note that the British books always refer to it as the "Bf". But the Germans do not.

                        For example, I have a book on Luftwaffe Propaganda Postcards of the period. None of the postcards printed then called it a "Bf".

                        I also visited Wiener-Neustadt, Austria a few years ago and picked up a copy of a book on the Wiener-Neustadt aircraft factory where 109's were built during the war. Never a reference to "Bf" in the text of this modern book or the copies of documents from the war they had reprinted.

                        I have to wonder if this is a concoction by non-Germans .... I have wondered about it for a long time but shrugged it off until this discussion arose.

                        Mike

                        Collecting mint condition Imperial German uniforms, visor caps, and Pickelhauben.

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                          #13
                          In 1938, Bayerische Flugzeugwerke changed its name to Messerschmitt AG. Aircraft after 1938 were referred to by the prefix "Me-". Before 1938, they were "Bf-".

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                            Thanks, Leroy. Another information gap filled.

                            What is interesting is the British books I have had for so many years call all of the 109's "Bf" -- including those models made up until the last days of the war.

                            I think that is what has added to the confusion. None of the books mention the change of the factory name.

                            Best regards,

                            Mike

                            Collecting mint condition Imperial German uniforms, visor caps, and Pickelhauben.

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                              #15
                              The British books are completely right.

                              Although the factory changed its name, the aircraft didn't. Officially the 109 and 110 stayed Bf 109 and Bf 110 as they were developed under the name of the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke.

                              As mentioned before, people didn't care and called them the Me 109 and Me 110.

                              I have an official Luftwaffe gun service manual from 1943 of the 109G-6/U-4. It is called "Bf" on the front page ...

                              Will post a pic within the next days.

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