Request ID 2 shells casing

[Jan B]

Guys,

Way out of my area ( although I'm sure they ain't WW 2 German), can someone help me in identifying below markings on 2 shell casings?

Also
Regards

Jan B

First one

It reads 90 MM M517/1 and MMJ 13-47 - no other markings found.

[Jan B]

second larger one reads:

602 DM 4
90X602 DM2

and

LOS MKE 37
LOS HO-U-29

some additional symbols 3, a + and an small arrow ( British? Bundeswehr? US?)

[klarkon]

90mm ammo for the M47 and M48 Patton tank as well as the German Kanonejagdpanzer tank destroyer.
"LOS MKE 37" i believe is made in Makina ve Kimya Endüstrisi Kurumu, Turkey
MMJ = SARL MINNESOTA DE FRANCE, PARIS ????????

[Jan B]

90mm ammo for the M47 and M48 Patton tank as well as the German Kanonejagdpanzer tank destroyer.
"LOS MKE 37" i believe is made in Makina ve Kimya Endüstrisi Kurumu, Turkey
MMJ = SARL MINNESOTA DE FRANCE, PARIS ????????

Thank you for your reply. Forgive me my ignorance but can I conclude that both are postwar NATO/Bundeswehr then?

Regards,

Jan B.

[klarkon]

Yes, that's true, both are postwar production

[Jan B]

Yes, that's true, both are postwar production

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