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    Two different 88 grenade

    Hello!
    Me and my friend discussed about this grenades.
    Two 88mm grenade, from the hungarian WWII operational area. These disarmed.
    The left one is in the best condition. The right one is maybe groud dug one.
    The left one is full empty. The righ one is the heavier,full of iron, only litthe space can be found under the fuse.
    The left one have the shortest fuse, but similar to me.
    I think the left one is HE and the right one is AP to me (I'm not expert)
    I don't know what type, Pzgr39 or Pzger43? Maybe used in panzer or in Pak?
    What do you think about these?
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    The best is the "left one"-pictures rotated
    Here are the fuses-and on the last picture:with another 88
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      #3
      At first - both fuzes are wrong, left is "l.Jgr.Z.23nA", on right side is A.Z.1. Correct fuze is Zt.Z.S/30 or A.Z.23/28
      http://forum.ioh.pl/graficzki2/1358492425__mg_1843.jpg
      http://img.allzip.org/g/216/orig/5212446.jpg
      secondly - full shell is maybe LIVE ! Try to consider weight - Live shell with explosive filling weights cca. 9 kg, full of iron must be much heavier. This little space under fuze can be "mundlochbuchse"=
      booster housing. All these drawings of shell including Panzergranate can be found here :
      http://lexpev.nl/downloads/geschossringbuch.pdf from page 56.........

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        #4
        8,8cm Pzgr.39

        8,8cm Pzgr.39/43

        difference between driving bands


        Types of HE shells including exercise shell

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          #5
          Thank you very much!
          Very interesting and very important informations!
          I suggest to my friend to inspect the suspicious one
          Summary: 2 flak spreng grenade shell with wrong fuzes...?

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            #6
            Right.
            https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/colle...196911353.html

            l.Jgr.Z.23 n.A was for 7,5 cm le.Ig 18.
            A.Z.1 for 10,5cm le.F.H.18

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