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    #1

    Live Grenade Fuse for Sale on eBay?

    Is this thing live???

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/unicestwieni...p2047675.l2562
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    If it is it is a violation of federal law.

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      #3
      You should ask the seller for more photos , specially the end of the brass tip.

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        #4
        first i have to admit that it is a put together piece, the wings are not matching to the fuze....wings are rusty and crusty...the rest is in mint condition....second... the fuze is empty because you can see the little wire from the igniter....

        best regards jens

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          #5
          Originally posted by Wilhelm View Post
          If it is it is a violation of federal law.
          Well the guy is in Poland, so I doubt it is a violation of federal law...but if it was live, it would be violation of Polish law, at least, and mail policies also. Thankfully seems deactivated.

          Carles

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            #6
            At least there is no detonator attached which would be far more hazardous. I don't understand oberjaeger's comment about how the wire showing proves that it's empty. That simply is not true. Even a live B.Z.E. 39 will show that bit of wire with the loop at the top. That's how the cord is attached. I will agree that it appears that the wing nut has been replaced that still is not proof that the fuse is not live. The wing nut can be changed out without pulling/activating the fuse.

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              #7
              About 10 years ago my friend bought a French WWI grenade on Ebay from a US seller. He got it USPS and it was 100% live. He took it apart and got the explosive out but this does happen.

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                #8
                @Infanteer...please have a look at this little wire coming out of the fuze....

                best regards jens
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                  #9
                  you can see it better on the original pic...sorry for my poor picture

                  best regards jens

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Wilhelm View Post
                    If it is it is a violation of federal law.
                    Which federal law? Can you provide a citation, please?
                    TIA

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                      #11
                      Grenades

                      I'd like to know what federal law also?

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                        #12
                        1. It is not live, as Oberjaeger has pointed out.
                        2. It is not a Brennzünder 39 für Eierhandgranate (head would have been blue and the time-pellet would have been visible)
                        3. It is a Zündschnür Anzünder 39 (with a rusty wing added from a B.Z.E.39). It contains no explosives, no detonator, no time pellet etc. It is just a "automatic matchstick". Pulling the wire will result in a flame. This flame would normally be used to ignite a fuse that would be held by the brass-colored adapter.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by oberjaeger View Post
                          @Infanteer...please have a look at this little wire coming out of the fuze....

                          best regards jens
                          Now I understand what you are saying... that part in English would be known as a cap or cover but not a wire.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bergflak View Post
                            1. It is not live, as Oberjaeger has pointed out.
                            2. It is not a Brennzünder 39 für Eierhandgranate (head would have been blue and the time-pellet would have been visible)
                            3. It is a Zündschnür Anzünder 39 (with a rusty wing added from a B.Z.E.39). It contains no explosives, no detonator, no time pellet etc. It is just a "automatic matchstick". Pulling the wire will result in a flame. This flame would normally be used to ignite a fuse that would be held by the brass-colored adapter.
                            Indeed, now I see it too. So the cap is green? On my monitor it appears almost a dark blue. I had never seen one of those brass caps on the bottom before. Looks like a very nice example.

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                              #15
                              The cap is Dunkelgrau (dark grey). That is "instant, no time delay". It is a combination of two different fuzes.

                              Se picture below.
                              Different versions of the Brennzünder. Red head (Rotkopf) has a 1 second delay, mostly used in boxes of colored smoke and message boxes dropped from aircraft. Gray head (Graukopf) was instant, used for demolition work, booby traps and ignition of black powder fuses. Blue head (Blaukopf) had a 4.5 second delay, used in different types of handgrenades.
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