Shipping question

[Military Trader]

This is probably a dumb question -- but would there be any problems sending an inert grenade (Japanese) using USPS (to California)? Of course I would pack it well, take the top off, and label it as an inert "paperweight" but are there any restrictions on this?

[Granate]

Give me till tommorow and I will tell you how to do it. Right now I am getting ready to go out for some dinner. In the mean time, DO NOT ship it by US Mail (USPS)! You will be working for a guy named Tyrone who is actually "Sugar Pants, wearing a dress and putting cherry Kool-aid on his/her lips. You will become friends with her while you are in a federal Jail making little rocks out of big rocks!

Mark
MACVSOG "Living Historian and Librarian"

[Military Trader]

Thanks mark for that info (and vivid description ) -- I'm actually not going to ship the grenade as it turns out anyway but I would like to know the way to do it for future reference so go ahead and post your advice.

[Hauptman]

I don't think its a big issue at all. I have done it many times, to many different states and countries. If all parts are seperated, its nothing more than a paperweight. You can use UPS or FEDEX if using the USPS is not something you want to do. I know there are alot of things that you are not suppose to ship by USPS, that are OK with UPS. For example, aerosol paint cans. USPS says...NO Way! UPS says, NO Problem!

[Paul G]

Give me till tommorow and I will tell you how to do it. Right now I am getting ready to go out for some dinner. In the mean time, DO NOT ship it by US Mail (USPS)! You will be working for a guy named Tyrone who is actually "Sugar Pants, wearing a dress and putting cherry Kool-aid on his/her lips. You will become friends with her while you are in a federal Jail making little rocks out of big rocks!

Mark
MACVSOG "Living Historian and Librarian"

I would like to read what your way to ship it would be. I think your response has scared the original poster of this thread away from completing the sale of his grenade to me.

PG-

[rick1]

It is a no issue...if its truly a relic, the feds know it is just a paperweight. Shipped them plenty of times. If it is called a grenade that means it is still a weapon (then there is a issue), if it is a chunk of steel...then that's what it is... call it what it is.
...it would be the same as sending a soup can with a hole in it. USPS is fine...as its not an explosive and cannot me made live again...therefore is only a "grenade" by looks only.

I would like to read what your way to ship it would be. I think your response has scared the original poster of this thread away from completing the sale of his grenade to me.

PG-

That's too bad!

[Military Trader]

Thats true because we know the difference. What if the post did an xray of the package or if by some chance decided to open the package (I know the latter has a slim chance of happening but could happen)? I would be willing to bet the postal inspector wouldn't think it was a soup can. There was an incedent not long ago where a kid brought a deactivated WW2 US grenade to a school for class and they called the bomb sqad in.

[Granate]

Paul G,

sometimes the truth of the matter is a little bit scarry and as it should be. I have done in the last 5 years around 20 or so transactions in having to send INERT Grenades, in the same matter in which I recieved them. There is a psuedo policy with the USPS, FedX, and UPS. They will all ask you if there is anything in there that is explosive, aerosol, HazMat, dangerous liqiuds, a Weapon/Gun, or any type of ORDNANCE INERT or otherwise.
Just as an example for everybody here and at the Post Office I used to do business with.

In my post Office it was OK and there were no problems until the entire contents fell out of the box by thanks to the older counter person who had offered to help and get me out quickly. She immediately recognized the Mk2A1 as a grenade NOTE: To this day, I have not seen her again. But I did ask her how she knew what it was? She stated that her husband served with the 101st in WWII. She said he had brought 4-5 Mk.2's home and 4 Offensive grenades with him. He had hid them in the wall. He had a huge pond, around 5acres that he would stock and fish out of for years. He would not be as patient as he was and after so long of fishing out there he would turn to one "DuPont" lure.

Anyhow, even though it was broken down as much as I could. The Post manager came out and looked at it and asked "Grenade?". I said "An INERT Grenade." He stated "just this time and never more; do we understand each other?" Yeppers, we understand.

It is NOT about dissasembling the device inorder to allow it to pass through. A INERT Grenade may still have some residue of Amatol, Baratol, TNT (Flaked), Comp B & C, or something similar and a dog can still sniff it and find it. And........that would only be by a random search or if they felt, tipped off, heard about it through other alphabet agencies, our you were suspicious looking. When this happens they can and will at times bring their own dogs or the closest departments dog(s) to smell packages.

I have also sent them to other countries around the world without a single problem until that little incident. This is not a situation in which you make knee-jerk decisions on. You need to consider ALL Avenues when doing this. If you have done this before without a hitch, well then I am very, very happy for you!

Go to the Federal Statutes on the transfer of Ordnance (INERT) and see what it says? It has been a while since I had a copy as provivded to me by my Chief Deputy of ______________ County here in Ohio.....

It all boils down to all of you watching this thread. "Do you feel lucky?" ahhh, sorry not that one, this is it "Catch me if you can?" Nooo, that was by DC5.

I cannot, nor will I give any advice on AN OPEN FORUM.

Since rick1 works for one of the alphabet Agencies, may he enlighten us more?