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    #1

    88 flak container

    hi guys ,
    i bought this container yesterday and i have a question !
    the container came with a piece of wood with text on it .
    what kind of purpose is this piece for ?
    i also have a 88 flak shell ,but it dus not fit in the container !!! how is this possible ,i know there is a diffirence between flak and panzer but with me both are flak...
    thank you ,
    greetings jo.
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    #2
    Did you try to put your 88 shell inside the container upside down? Warhead/grenade end goes inside first,casing base will stop to holders inside container.Also warhead should have nosecone adapter(haltekappe) inside the container.

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      #3
      thank you !

      hi jiipee76 ,
      oh my god ! i am so stupid
      it fits like a glove upside down !! and it can be closed perfectly
      i did not expect that it could be closed this way ,so i did not try that...
      thank you for that lesson
      any idea abouth the wooden piece ?
      greetings ,jo.
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        #4
        It is a fitting used with armor piercing grenade, which is shorter than hi-explosive round. These are quite rare pieces.

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          #5
          explain pleace ?

          hi ville kosonen ,
          thank you for identifying it ,but can you please explain it in detail ?
          i don't understand where it "fits" on the shell
          do you have drawings or pictures of it in use ?
          thank you very much !
          greetings ,jo.

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            #6
            I hope this photo helps. They are 7,5cm grenades, but the idea is same. Ruler shows level/edge of the case when fitted.
            They were inserted in the tube in this order: First wooden fitting part, then metal support, then whole round(which comes as one part=shell and case, from factory)
            Meaning is to fit round to tube snuggly, without room to move.

            Hope this helps,
            Ville

            Ps. If you have no use for it, you can send it to me
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              #7
              Here is few pictures from my collection.It shows you that PzGr is SHORTER than Sprgr,so the wooden piece is needed to make it fit tight into carrier tube which is designed to accept both type rounds.





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                #8
                My cans came without any of those... I got the 'tubes' from Poland. How thick should the wooden disc be for the Kwk40 Pzgr. can? Should there also be a wood disc for the Hl/B rounds?

                Carles
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                  #9
                  Here is measurements for Kwk 40 adapters:

                  7,5cm Sprgr.Patr 34 -> 14mm thick wooden adapter
                  7,5cm Pzgr.Patr 39 -> 33mm thick wooden adapter
                  7,5cm Pzgr.Patr 40 -> 82mm thick wooden adapter
                  7,5cm Gr.Patr 38 HL/A -> 14mm thick wooden adapter
                  7,5cm Gr.Patr 38 HL/B -> 7mm thick wooden adapter
                  7,5cm Nbgr.Patr -> 14mm thick wooden adapter

                  Wooden adapter proper name in german: Füllklotz
                  Metallic adapter: Haltekappe

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by me6_130 View Post
                    My cans came without any of those... I got the 'tubes' from Poland. How thick should the wooden disc be for the Kwk40 Pzgr. can? Should there also be a wood disc for the Hl/B rounds?

                    Carles
                    Fantastic condition tubes you got there.

                    I have few Kwk 40 tubes also,but their condition is BAD.

                    I only have Pak40 and 88 tubes in good condition.

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                      #11
                      They are spanish contract 1943. Seems a scrap dealer had 300 of them, some years ago, and used them to make a fence in his orchard. Someone saw them and bought most of them. I managed to choose 2 out of 20, in pretty good condition and price.

                      Thanks for the info. Did all the rounds have an adapter then?

                      Carles
                      Last edited by me6_130; 06-05-2011, 04:37 AM.

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                        #12
                        I wonder where Finnish army have put these kwk40 tubes.

                        Its easy to find poor condition tubes,but finding good one is HARD from here where i live.

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                          #13
                          Thank you all

                          hello everybody !
                          i realy wanted to THANK YOU all for the amazing good info !!!
                          now i know wat i have
                          greetings ,jo.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by me6_130 View Post
                            Did all the rounds have an adapter then?

                            Carles
                            Yes,all round types had wooden+metallic adapter.

                            PzGr 40 and PzGr 40(W) used same adapters.

                            I recommend you to get this manual: Handbuch - Die Munition der Deutschen Geschutze und Werfer D435/1.You might find it in scanned format from internet.Original paper one is tough one to find and EXPENSIVE.

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                              #15
                              Well, it seems we get nice cans down here but you get nice ammo up there. All my ammo comes from Germany, Austria and Poland. I wish I could get the ammo free as some of you get it there (In Finland)...

                              I'll try to get that manual.

                              Carles

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