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    Unknown grenade/mortar???

    I've been working in roadconstructions for 15 years now and during these years I've done several great finds at work while excavating with baggers etc. I now finally took time to make some pics from some of them of which I absolutely don't know what it is. Perhaps anyone here recognises the following which I found in Born, southern Holland. At the same site I found dozens of 25 pounder shells, storage cases for 25 pounders, several different bullets, hundreds of all kind of grenades, some helmets (Brittish and German) and lots of other things. All grenades, bullets and mortars where exploded by the EOD (Dutch explosive clean-up service from the army) except for a very few, which have been stored in my basement.

    So my question is: what is this and is there perhaps a way of cleaning this in such a way that it can be showcased again?

    Thanks for all help!!!
    Marcel





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    First one looks like a M6A3 US bazooka round LIFE!!!
    Vissible the hollowcharge is still intact, be carefull.

    http://www.inert-ord.net/atrkts/bazoo/

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      #3
      Thanks! Though I doubt it's M6A3 because the head looks rather different. Unfortunately the pics don't show these differences well enough. And the slim backside is rusted through and it appears to be a not-life round (though I never know for sure of course ). The inside-head, which has a yellowish/greenish finish contained phosphorus which has been removed in the field right after digging up (so for that matter it again could be possible HEAT bazooka round.

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        #4
        first one looks to me like a ww2 US rifle grenade with the inverted cone shaped charge still intact.
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        http://militarycollectorshq.com/

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          #5
          Thanks!! By comparing this schematic drawing to the grenade it seems you are right. Though I don't believe it's still intact. I will make more pics from the backside for better opinions (or a confirmation that it's indeed still intact)

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            #6
            First one is indeed a US rifle grenade.
            Be carefull! be sure that its fully empty.

            (Oh en ondanks dat ie misschien leeg is, is ie nog steeds illegaal in NL ).
            I'm collecting anything related to the towns Castricum and Bakkum during WWII.
            Also soldbucher from 116pzdiv. And 1944-1945 eastfront pockets, kampfgruppe and Oder front.
            My website: Gotrick.nl

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              #7
              Thanks for the confirmation
              The stabilizer tube, as named on the schematic drawing, is hollow in my situation. From one side it's rusted through and the bottom is also gone. I will make some new pics today by the way.

              (Illegaal in Nederland? Ook als ' ie helemaal onschadelijk is? Hmmm, da's minder prettig om te horen )
              Sorry for the little Dutch inbetween!

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                #8
                The tube never carried any propellant or explosive, it used the pressure from a 'blank' round to launch it. The explosive part would be in the 'body', (not the 'nose') and with that inner cone shape that you show it looks like it is still there, and in the "shaped" anti-tank configuration designed to blow a jet of molten metal through armor plate.

                If you are not sure it is empty, show it to someone who knows.
                http://militarycollectorshq.com/

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                  #9
                  Thanks Jerry! I will show it to someone else living closeby and with a lot more experience. After all, with such things you can never be too careful.

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                    And by the way, here's another one which I can't figure out what it is. All info is very welcome
                    The bottom is completely gone as can be seen on the 3rd pic. The plan is to give this one a good clean up (in case it's not a live round anymore hehe)





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                      Originally posted by Marcel Banziger View Post
                      Thanks Jerry! I will show it to someone else living closeby and with a lot more experience. After all, with such things you can never be too careful.

                      Leave it where it is now and call the police. You need the EOD and not your friend. If you don't know what it is you should leave it where you found it.
                      Beetje heel erg dom om dit mee naar huis te nemen.

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                        #12
                        First one is a live anti-tank rifle grenade, second one..., i am not even going to try to identify.
                        To give you an idea: because of the sensitive fuze, unexploded duds of this type of are preferable blown up on site, without moving them.
                        You decided to take it home...


                        Zoals rick al zei, inerte geweergranaten mag je alleen bezitten indien in het bezit van een (moeilijk verkrijgbare) ontheffing.
                        Over het zoeken naar, en in bezit hebben van scherpe munitie nog maar niet te spreken.
                        Als je zoiets vind, politie bellen en keurig laten ruimen, zoals het hoort.

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                          #13
                          Not smart move to dug up ANYTHING like this and carry them home...

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                            #14
                            Things will be taken care of now the way it officially should be

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                              Originally posted by Marcel Banziger View Post
                              All grenades, bullets and mortars where exploded by the EOD (Dutch explosive clean-up service from the army) except for a very few, which have been stored in my basement.
                              never mention in public you've got illegal things like that stored in your basement!

                              Leave that stuff in the soil, it's not worth your live...

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