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    OK so as far as I know these are LAZY DOG BOMBS, AND FLECHETTES? Is that right and if so which one is which? Are they from WWII? Are they American, German, Japanese? Are these illegal to own? What do these normally go for (price)?


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    Kenneth
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        Thats a flechette variant of the canister round, also comes in shot Ball berrings, anti personel for when tanks are being swarmed by infantry. Is that a shell for small arms or a projectile, looks like a shotgun shell cut away? And the top photos are also AP which are menate to penetrate helmets from the top etc.

        Dont have any further info myself...
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          Their nick-name is "lazy Dog(s)". Those you have showing were developed by us (US of A). They kill by kinetic energy stored up by there release at height. The fins impart a spin to them. They will penetrate allot of cover such as trees, buildings and bunkers (depending on their roof construction). They will also penetrate all known helmets and destroy some equipment/ordnance and soft skinned vehicles.

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            I'll add a little more regarding the flechette shotshell shown. I think this is the experimental variation made by Northrop because the flechettes are loaded end to end so half of them have to turn over and stabilize in flight. The most common types used in Vietnam were the Remington and Winchester loads which had all the flechettes pointing forward. Here's a view of the Remington box and shell that was the load preferred by the Marines:



            On the legal issue, I don't think the individual flechettes are illegal anywhere and that goes for the lazy dog bomblets, too. But I believe loaded flechette ammunition might be illegal in some areas like California or New Jersey. Commercial flechette shotshells can be bought for about $2.00 each and Vietnam vintage GI examples average $30 to $40 each among collectors. The individual flechettes are available by the pound on eBay, Gunbroker and other places for reasonable prices.

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