someone had one of these for sale at a local show and as most sellers do this guy claimed it was super rare,i dont collect interet ordnance (i have a few misc pieces in my collection) i was curious as to how rare these things are and how much they go for?this one isnt complete,its missing the top!
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Hi Yancy, I have seen them sale in the UK, usually at Beltring show, complete and inert for around £250 to £300 ($500 to $600) As you know "rare" is a much over used word in collecting. They are not common but I think "scarce" would be a better description.
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I have great pictures of the one in my collection.
its a Stahlgrenate 41 Anti-tank round.
It was fired from the Pak 37 gun using a special blank cartridge.
If anyone can send me an email,then i will send you the pics!
I agree with Adrian,scarce is a correct phrase rather than rare.
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i have seen 2 pictures of them in use in werner mullers book "german flak in WWII" this guy was asking way to much for his,he wanted $850!!!i figured if it was rare and a good price it would have been snatched up by Bill Grist who collects that sort of thing,he left the show before i had a chance to ask him about it.it was neat getting to handle and take pics of the thing,inert odnance seems to be drying up in the states since it is near impossible to import now.Last edited by Radcollector; 10-10-2007, 04:41 PM.Comment
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As said,the one pictured is missing the top portion of the projectile where the fuze screwed in?
They are usually welded on so i dont know what on earth someone was trying to do to that one?
These weapons were `hollow charge` (if thats the correct phrase?)
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The top comes off quit easily; it's not welded on, but pressed on.
In fact, all lake found 3,7 cm Stielgranate 41 have loose tops; it's the only way to safely remove the HE charge.
As a result, the steel liner, which is part of the hollow charge, is always missing.
850 $ is a ridiculous price, but what if it was one for 2 cm Flak 38, Czech 3,7 cm Pak, or 4 cm Flak , or even bigger ?
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Ah,thanks for the removal info!
I paid £200 for mine and i bought a base fuze for it for about 30 euro.
I do know a chap selling one of these rounds for £190.
also reports of these selling for £400 plus!!
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Of course the price depends on the condition but £200 in the UK is good.
What is harder to find are the containers of which there is a metal and a wooden type. Even harder is an authentic blank case and then there was the holder for the cases that went in the container. Few of the holders survive as the tube that held the blank case was made of cardboard.
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his whole idea on priceng was that he once saw one sell on ebay for $800 so he priced his at $850!i didnt argue with him or try and bargain with the man since i wasnt really interested,i just recognized what it was sitting on his table and wanted some pics of one since its not something i see alot of at shows here in the states,you guys on the other side of the pond seem to have all the choice inert stuff from what i can tell from pics of your shows!
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