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Wow, that is one ugly bird...Comment
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In fact it is the logo of a german civil clock manufactor, it has nothing to do with the Kriegsmarine.Originally posted by Martin Simon View PostComment
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MautheComment
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fake eagle on Kriegsmarine ships light Schilbach 92250
image_4278639.jpgLast edited by glaser; 08-04-2020, 01:12 AM.Comment
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Who makes all these eagles ?
Not that one can say in public.Comment
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People that want to make quick money. You can buy these kind of stamps all over the internet and use them on whatever item you like. Some also use electric engraving tools.Originally posted by behblc View Post
Be careful when buying KM items.Comment
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Wow, that's pretty sick
It's not just the fact that these are made to rip people off, they're also made to f#$k up perfectly good, original WH and other items by adding fake, fantasy stamps. Sickening really...
Just my thoughts on the matter..
MartinComment
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NOR Collector if you scroll back a bit you will find an item I bought which carried the 50 Euro stamp from the "Eagle M" you illustrated, the edge / outline of the stamp is visible.Code:People that want to make quick money. You can buy these kind of stamps all over the internet and use them on whatever item you like. Some also use electric engraving tools. Be careful when buying KM items.
I was lucky dealer took it back without question.Comment
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Yes it is really f**ked up. There is a lot of money involved in this hobby and people will always find a way to exploit that.Originally posted by Martin Simon View PostWow, that's pretty sick
It's not just the fact that these are made to rip people off, they're also made to f#$k up perfectly good, original WH and other items by adding fake, fantasy stamps. Sickening really...
Just my thoughts on the matter..
Martin
I'm glad to hear that the dealer took the item back. Hopefully he/she will not try to sell the item as "original kriegsmarine" again, but this only shows how carefully one has to be in this hobby.Originally posted by behblc View PostComment
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Here is a minimeter that was sold on ebay in 2016 for EUR 99,-.
It was then upgraded with fake kriegsmarine stamps on the box and on the minimeter and sold to a private collector as a kriegsmarine minimeter for EUR 12-1300.
The collector showed me this and I thought something was not right and after I did some research I found the original and could then see that it now had fake stamps.
Here are some before and after pictures. The pictures on the left side is from when it was listed on ebay without any stamps. The pictures on the right side is after it got sold to the private collector with fake kriegsmarine stamps. The red circles is to show that both minimeter and box has the same marks and flaws to prove that it is in fact the same one
I have also added two pictures of the fake eagles on the box and minimeter.Comment
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Many fakes are more qualitative than originals.
It is necessary to compare models and manufacturers. The best evidence of originality is documents, photos, and merchants with a positive reputation.
Many fakes are more qualitative than originals.
I do not buy my relics in European markets. I find old houses, attics, old people with cheap old relics.Comment
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Another "genuine" stamp from eBay.Comment
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