CA Officers Visor up for review

[danish dragoon]

Hello

I have been offered this CA Visor cap. From what i can see form the photos i like it , but you can never be to careful in this hobby

So i would really appreciate your opinions.

The cap is makers marked Georg Grote Hannover Linden Limmer-STR. 39 ( A known Wartime Cap maker )

[danish dragoon]

Some more photos

[GAMS1]

Original cap no probleme but if you change the badges to silver ones, you will have a nice WH Administration Schirmmüte ?
Not really the typical KM shape , even made with blue lining ?
Nick

[danish dragoon]

Original cap no probleme but if you change the badges to silver ones, you will have a nice WH Administration Schirmmüte ?
Not really the typical KM shape , even made with blue lining ?
Nick

Yes I had my fear about the shape too

[MarcoPennisi]

KM officers’ field-gray visor hats supplied by the OKK since 1939 have a “Kriegsmarine” shape (ie the same top as blue or white KM visor hats), privately purchased ones may have not. The Army “saddle” shaped (Sattelform) crown of a KM officers’ field-gray visor hat is infrequent but is not anomalous and can be observed both in period photos and in surviving specimens. You may also refer to Angolia & Schlicht’s Kriegsmarine: uniforms & traditions, Saris’ Headgear of Hitler's Germany - vol 1, Patzwall’s Die Kopfbedeckungen der Kriegsmarine 1939-1945, Les Dossiers Militaria n°6, Uniformi & Armi “Kriegsmarine special issue ” n°124 and Delgado’s Deutsche Kriegsmarine to name a few. A visit to the Atlantic Wall Museum in Raversijde (Belgium) and the 39-45 Museum in Ambleteuse (France) , both holding quite a few land-based Kriegsmarine items, is strongly recommended.
AFAICS, the lower edge of the dark-green cap band appears to be simply stitched to the bottom field-gray hem and I don’t notice (especially on the front portion) the pronounced lip of a “Waffenfarbe” piping, exactly the way KM officers’ field-gray visor hats should be.

[danish dragoon]

KM officers’ field-gray visor hats supplied by the OKK since 1939 have a “Kriegsmarine” shape (ie the same top as blue or white KM visor hats), privately purchased ones may have not. The Army “saddle” shaped (Sattelform) crown of a KM officers’ field-gray visor hat is infrequent but is not anomalous and can be observed both in period photos and in surviving specimens. You may also refer to Angolia & Schlicht’s Kriegsmarine: uniforms & traditions, Saris’ Headgear of Hitler's Germany - vol 1, Patzwall’s Die Kopfbedeckungen der Kriegsmarine 1939-1945, Les Dossiers Militaria n°6, Uniformi & Armi “Kriegsmarine special issue ” n°124 and Delgado’s Deutsche Kriegsmarine to name a few. A visit to the Atlantic Wall Museum in Raversijde (Belgium) and the 39-45 Museum in Ambleteuse (France) , both holding quite a few land-based Kriegsmarine items, is strongly recommended.
AFAICS, the lower edge of the dark-green cap band appears to be simply stitched to the bottom field-gray hem and I don’t notice (especially on the front portion) the pronounced lip of a “Waffenfarbe” piping, exactly the way KM officers’ field-gray visor hats should be.

Thanks for your reply. I just had a look in Eduardo Delgardo´s book and found a picture of a Sonderführer wearing a Visor cap that clearly is a WH shaped one.

[danish dragoon]

I have just found this picture. I would say that the two CA officers is wearing WH Sattel form visor caps.

[billbert]

Shape isn’t per say KM..interior lining is definitely KM like...Billbert
Not in love with the insignia but they all can’t be blatant beauties..

[gmg]

This is mine veteran [emoji4]

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[danish dragoon]

looks like a nice NCO cap made in the WH form

[clestuff]

The CA caps I have seen have no bottom piping, just saying....

[gmg]

The CA caps I have seen have no bottom piping, just saying....

What you mean?

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[km-spain]

Hi, IMO not a KM-KA cap, the style is not for a marine cap

[RonR]

Couple of Officer's caps.


One with a cracked visor....


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[RonR]

A rough EM Visor....


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