petty officer badges ?

[mwelsh]

So I got these in a huge lot of stuff. The gentlemans father was in the Navy and took a number of items from some uboats at the end of the war. So the story goes, he got a clock some binos etc.

So these were in the lot. I looked through my naval insignia book and they look almost identical to the petty officer badges although I can't find brass ones like this.

So are these fantasy or what are they ? I have been searching Google and dealers for the last couple nights and can't find anything.

Thanks for any help!

[glaser]

Original and regular Kriegsmarine arm sleeve and shoulderboard insignia