Visor of G.Lütjens Admiral von der Bismarck / Original

[stonemint]

The Seller says it is "original", so it must be:



http://www.ebay.de/itm/281921279503?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[Ludwig]

I don´t know if I would put that much trust in "dr-tree"...

[Leroy]

About 25 years ago, an auction house in Europe (Hermann Historica?) sold a lot of Lütjens material, supposedly directly from the family, and even had a separate catalog for it (I've got a copy somewhere). There was a visor in there...but it sure wasn't this one.

[compressore]

He is listing it as a copy in the description text...very subtitle language but he says its "Original getreue" which means a true to original reproduction

[glaser]

this seller has only 92,5 % of positive feedback on 108 transactions, read his feedback and you wil have the answer to your question

[stonemint]

I have gotten some pms on this post.

1. No, it is not real.
2. It is a 100% fake cap with no original parts whatsoever.
3. It has been crudely artificially aged.

However, despite this thread, it will still go for crazy money.....

[Norm F]

Not only that, the photos are directly lifted from warhats.com where that reproduction cap is available for £425.00...
http://www.warhats.com/store/p510/Bi...tjens_Cap.html

Same scam from the same e-bay scammer as discussed here:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=808550

Best regards,
---Norm

[stonemint]

Norm, thanks for the link--looks like we spooked him into pulling the hat from auction.....

[compressore]

Hope so...

Norm, thanks for the link--looks like we spooked him into pulling the hat from auction.....

I hope that not someone offered a direct purchase on this piece of crap....

I have shown this auction to a friend of mine who is a lawyer. She said the description is "on the border" and maybe tipping to the side of being unlawful. Would be based on the judge.

If unlawful and the buyer would file a case, there are good chances of getting damages in the height of an really original cap......this is a very nice scenario I would like to try...just to get the seller's ass kicked.

Regards
Christian

[Peter J.]

Gentry, I belive it was Hanseatisches Auktionshaus (Hüsken) who offered Lütjens stuff.

cheers
Peter

[Ludwig]

I hope that not someone offered a direct purchase on this piece of crap....

I have shown this auction to a friend of mine who is a lawyer. She said the description is "on the border" and maybe tipping to the side of being unlawful. Would be based on the judge.

If unlawful and the buyer would file a case, there are good chances of getting damages in the height of an really original cap......this is a very nice scenario I would like to try...just to get the seller's ass kicked.

Regards
Christian

I would say the chances are slim to none! Many years ago, I opened a case against a cocksucker in Texas, who sold me a bad Knight´s Cross. It was on Ebay. Guess who was ****ed big time.

[compressore]

We had recently several cases in Germany where E-Bay sellers had to pay damages due to false descriptions, early ending of auctions, direct sales etc.
The customer protection laws are very strong.

[Leroy]

Gentry, I belive it was Hanseatisches Auktionshaus (Hüsken) who offered Lütjens stuff.

cheers
Peter

Thanks, Peter! I'll look around and see if I can find my copy.

[stonemint]

It's back:


http://www.ebay.de/itm/Schirmmutze-A...UAAOSwX~dWqfMK

[stonemint]

Up to EUR 506,00 with 4 days to go (and the reserve price hasn't even been met....):

http://www.ebay.de/itm/281923580866?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT