Scharnhorst cap tally help

[Norm F]

I also do not like, for now, the tally, but it does not look like a Belfast fake to me due to the little gold dots on the back of the tally. Those normally are found on more common fakes than Belfast which has a far more convincing thread style on the reverse.

Good point, I didn't notice the picture showing the reverse of the "r" in Scharnhorst -- definitely a different fake than the HMS Belfast gift shop reproduction.

Best regards,
---Norm

[iron cross 2]

thank you again thats what my dad was thinking that maybe the sailor was just remembering that event in his life

[John R.]

thank you again thats what my dad was thinking that maybe the sailor was just remembering that event in his life

Does not explain the sleeve rank patch though. Maybe he got it from a Scharnhorst sailor.

John

[Norm F]

But it ended up in a local auction in Slovenia?

Best regards,
---Norm

[John R.]

Does not matter where it is at now, I think the value of the articles equals the value of the Ärmelabzeichen Hauptgefreiter, around 25 euros maybe.

As a general rule, we determine value on the sum of the articles, not a story, unless the story is very good with pretty solid provenance.

So a U-boat badge and a U-boat frontspange supposedly belonging to a U-boat sailor without much provenance is equal to the value of each of those items combined.

My opinion anyway.

John

[iron cross 2]

i live in the uk at the minute yes john I see where you are coming from dont buy the story but buy the item to what its worth

[John R.]

i live in the uk at the minute yes john I see where you are coming from dont buy the story but buy the item to what its worth

Yes, but on the other hand, no matter how much collectors might say they do not like stories, they usually do in practice since most would like to think their artifact had a human connection. This has lead to a great deal of fraud over the years along with the good so the general idea is to not pay too much for items with stories.

I have quite a few items that came along with stories too and I like to believe them even if it would be a hard sell on purely factual evidence.

John