Help With Bordmutze Emblem

[lanners55]

I recently acquired this Bordmutze for my own collection. Can anyone identify the emblem?

Best regards,

Simon

[Tom32]

This insignia as an uboat = on U 1231

and/or

as an flottilla insignia = for the 5. U-flottilla


Regards

Tom

[lanners55]

Many thanks Tom, that's a great help.

Best regards,

Simon

[jmcm]

Worn by the following UBoat Crews:
U-Boat U97 - 16 ships sunk & 1 damaged - Sunk on 16 June 1943 - Commanders: Udo Heilmann, Oblt. Friedrich Bürgel, Kptlt. Hans-Georg Trox

U-Boat U267 - No ships sunk or damaged - Scuttled on 4 May 1945 - Commanders: Kptlt. Otto Tinschert, Ernst von Witzendorff, Kptlt. Otto Tinschert, Oblt. Bernhard Knieper

U-Boat U416 - No ships sunk or damaged - Sunk 30 March 1943 - Commanders: Christian Reich, Oblt. Rudolf Zorn, Kptlt. Heinz Zwarg, Oblt. Eberhard Rieger

U-Boat U708 - No ships sunk or damaged - Scuttled on 3 May 1945 - Commanders: Werner Heintze, Oblt. Klaus Andersen, Oblt. Ewald Pick, Oblt. Herbert Kühn

U-Boat U776 - No ships sunk or damaged - Surrendered England on 16 May 1945 - Commander: Kptlt. Lothar Martin

U-Boat U1231 - No ships sunk or damaged - Surrendered Scotland 13 May 1945 - Commanders: Kpt. Hermann Lessing, Oblt. Helmut Wicke

U-Boat U3011 - No ships sunk or damaged - Scuttled on 3 May 1945 - Commanders: Kptlt. Otto Tinschert, Oblt. Otto Fränzel

[compressore]

One general question: All mentioned U-Boats had a seahorse as an emblem, but in a different look, for example on all the tail pointing left, not right as shown above.
Does it matters ore purely "freedom of art" to have the cap insigna different?

Regards
Christian

[lanners55]

A very good point Christian. Any further thoughts Gentlemen?

There are the remains of the last few letters of a name in the cap: ????HTMANN

Best regards,

Simon

[compressore]

Name

A very good point Christian. Any further thoughts Gentlemen?

There are the remains of the last few letters of a name in the cap: ????HTMANN

Best regards,

Simon

Hello Simon,

if your reading is correct, than unfortunately the marinarchive and the U-Boat archive do not list an officer with a name ending with ...HTMANN on the above mentioned boats. Maybe not an U-Boat cap, but another KM vessel ?

Please post the name label, possible another reading ?

Regards
Christian

[Tom32]

The e-boat S 35 / 3. SFltl has the seahorse insignia .

In this shows the tail backwards , possibly a cap from this one ( but on the cap is shown a " seahorse on plate " as insignia , on the boat painted only the single seahorse... ) .

Regards

Tom

[lanners55]

Many thanks for your help with this Gentlemen. The name is written on the leather sweatband, most of which is missing but the remainder of the name can just be seen in reverse on the lining.

Best regards,

Simon

[lanners55]

-------htmann?

[Michel]

I have some problems with this cap and seems to have an artificial patina.

.

[compressore]

I asked myself is:
What kind of tailor would sew in his tag in such a sloppy way?

Regards
Christian