SS decals

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

This are the only pictures I got, the helmet is a model 1935 ET low 3 digits production code.
Decals look nice but I have a bad feeling
what you think?

Giorgio

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

runes

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

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[solo]

Ciao Giorgio ,IMO
Carlo

[Dennis J]

I don't like them at all,the national shield just does not look right the SS shield looks good but strange to me.To be honest I can't put my finger on it but I don't like them.Maybe in hand I could tell but with these pics I can't 100% say,my gut says no.

Dennis J

[mathluft]

Bad…

[Anders L]

Giorgio, the SS decal have no chance at all.It is a fake 100%.
The party decal could be a original, but are put on the helmet looong after the war. Look at the stress marks that are vertical on the decal.
But I will guess that that one also is a fake....

The paint looks like some fake helmets that I have seen coming out from Italy in the late -80´s early -90's.
Do you know where this came from?

[WalterB]

The rune dimensions are wrong and the decal is definitely bad. I would run away from this helmet and not look back!

[P.Wasteels.]

SS Decal.

Pure copy,!!!

P.W.

[Schwerpunkt]

I've seen these decals turn up on a couple of helmets lately , maybe this is one of them. I'll have to check.

[DougB]

The party decal is identical to one published in the Hicks Beaver book on an M34 blackie helmet formerly owned by Darryl Pajot and on a helmet I now own. I have recently had the opportunity to magnify another decal also on a civic helmet and is identical to this one and had the same vertical stress marks which were clearly age under magnification.

The runic decal this one has appears to me to quite possibly be a Pocher misprint. I have recently examined a Pocher decal with almost an identical misprint, that I had originally called as a fake when sent photos to examine.

The helmet was sent to me and my opinion changed when I saw it in hand. The helmet I was sent was also formerly owned by Darryl and the runic decal and party decals were almost identical to this one.

The runic decal here has obvious qualities that fakes never get right.

I am not willing to write this off based upon the former blackies I have recently seen. I have very detailed photos of them but not with me. When I have the opportunity I will post them.

-- can we see pictures of the entire helmet?

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

The party decal is identical to one published in the Hicks Beaver book on an M34 blackie helmet formerly owned by Darryl Pajot and on a helmet I now own. I have recently had the opportunity to magnify another decal also on a civic helmet and is identical to this one and had the same vertical stress marks which were clearly age under magnification.

The runic decal this one has appears to me to quite possibly be a Pocher misprint. I have recently examined a Pocher decal with almost an identical misprint, that I had originally called as a fake when sent photos to examine.

The helmet was sent to me and my opinion changed when I saw it in hand. The helmet I was sent was also formerly owned by Darryl and the runic decal and party decals were almost identical to this one.

The runic decal here has obvious qualities that fakes never get right.

I am not willing to write this off based upon the former blackies I have recently seen. I have very detailed photos of them but not with me. When I have the opportunity I will post them.

-- can we see pictures of the entire helmet?

Thank you all for the information, the helmet is not in my hands and I will ask the owner if I can get it and post pictures of the entire pot.

Thank you again

Giorgio

[WalterB]

Thank you all for the information, the helmet is not in my hands and I will ask the owner if I can get it and post pictures of the entire pot.

Thank you again

Giorgio

Giorgio, I will defer to Doug (SSTK) on this one since I am not familiar with rune decal misprints.

[Anders L]

The party decal is identical to one published in the Hicks Beaver book on an M34 blackie helmet formerly owned by Darryl Pajot and on a helmet I now own. I have recently had the opportunity to magnify another decal also on a civic helmet and is identical to this one and had the same vertical stress marks which were clearly age under magnification.

The runic decal this one has appears to me to quite possibly be a Pocher misprint. I have recently examined a Pocher decal with almost an identical misprint, that I had originally called as a fake when sent photos to examine.

The helmet was sent to me and my opinion changed when I saw it in hand. The helmet I was sent was also formerly owned by Darryl and the runic decal and party decals were almost identical to this one.

The runic decal here has obvious qualities that fakes never get right.

I am not willing to write this off based upon the former blackies I have recently seen. I have very detailed photos of them but not with me. When I have the opportunity I will post them.

-- can we see pictures of the entire helmet?

Doug and Giorgio, please post up some more pics when possible.
Still not convinced That decal just do not look like a Pocher to me...

[DougB]

Doug and Giorgio, please post up some more pics when possible.
Still not convinced That decal just do not look like a Pocher to me...

Anders, I will when I get time and access to my database of photos which I do not have at the moment. I expect to be able to get to it this weekend some time.

As I said there is a black civic helmet i had the opportunity to recently examine and magnify, that was formerly owned by Darryl with a runic very similar to this one and an identical party shield. The party shield is also identical to the one found on the black M34 published in Mike Beaver/Kelly Hick's SS Helmets book and in my possession. Each possess unique features that I can already see in this party decal, and the runic from examining well over 100 of them in hand, has a features that you never, ever see in fakes. So whether these are early CAP's, misprints or a privately produced local one I don't know but I am more than willing to give this one a chance. I have discussed this at length with Darryl and hoping he will have time to lend his opinion to this discussion.

Remember that never before seen 1936 very early Q Bigfoot on GHW? I think we are looking at something similar here with both decals.