M40 Winther Camo opinions

[-Peters-]

I think that I would expect 60+ year old white paint to be much more yellowed along with the rust bleed through.

The paint has a yellow'ish tan, but the camera doesn't pick that up.

In my hands it looks authentic, but i would be a fool not to listen to peoples opinions as know winter camos are some of the hardest camos to declare authentic, so i would let you guys give you opinions on it, and thanks for that
Niels, good reference on the car rust part, i didn't think of that, but it sure looks like the rust on my old car whick is from moisture. I see no signs of artificial wear, and the wear on the side edge could easily be from carrying it in the belt where an arm has been brushed against it, or maybe a bag?

[Eugenirus]

Peters, you can ask Sturm 74 (a fellow from Russia) about this camo. He has many white camos in his collection that he dug up with his own hands. So his eyes can see some aspects better.
I repeat, from these pics I like this camo.

[-Peters-]

Peters, you can ask Sturm 74 (a fellow from Russia) about this camo. He has many white camos in his collection that he dug up with his own hands. So his eyes can see some aspects better.
I repeat, from these pics I like this camo.

I will try and ask Sturm, thanks

[collector44]

i do not beleeve in the white paint,
as remarked above, the bubbles are certainly from heating it up, possible to try to make it older than it appears
other doubts:, nowhere signs of use, almost no paint off the rimm, if there is rust trough the paint at those spots, than after 60 years there were more signs of rust, and the paint,
and the paint has not the structure as old paint,

[Gulli]

Greetings Peters,



In regards to the bubbles, it appears to be only on the side where the helmet was exposed to heavy moisture - which explains the oxidization underneath the paint.



Asper

I agree, bubels in the paint dont always mean it have been under a heat treatment.

Best regards
Gulli

[Sergey K.]

Agree with Asper and Gulli .
And in my humble opinion this helmet has a very good chances to be original .
Bubbles is not a feature of fake / I have seen many authentic dug helmets with bubbles / They often can be found on the helmets with overpainted surface . Take a look on these ones ...
winter FJ

[Sergey K.]

The same helmet's surface

[Sergey K.]

Another one with bubbles

[Sergey K.]

Sometimes it looks unreal but it true ....what why i prefere ground dug items .

[Sergey K.]

Not overpainted helmet SS . has been found in moisture soil . small and srtong bubbles everywhere ...

[Sergey K.]

even inside to the rim

[helmuthunter]

There is little doubt that the blistering on the helmet is from a blow torch IMHO. This is different from moisture blistering, anyone who has spent time doing metal restoration and fabrication work on old tin can pick the fine details of this, there are different characteristics. It is still a great pot for the money, just not original camo IMO. regards Johnno.

[Ken B.]

I would have a second look at the repaired area on top. There is a small hole with white paint in it.

[-Peters-]

I would have a second look at the repaired area on top. There is a small hole with white paint in it.

My guess is that it was repaired before the new paint was added. It's not the best repair i have seen, so i'm guessing it was repaired at the field.