m-42 with rare chinstrap?!?!

[JOHN VD HEIJDEN]

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Now waiting for Perry

He has a great expertise on this subject



cheer,s Johnny

[Perry Floyd]

Yes from looking at the other side I would say it's a Norwegian stained liner that was once WWII German and restamped on the outside with a Norwegian size stamp...

[JuanS]

I am wondering How the alteration of the liner would affect the overall value of the helmet.

Any ideas?


thanks

Juan

[JuanS]

Another question for Mr. Floyd

Why did they dyed the liner and did not painted the helmet or got rid of the decal?

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Juan, I hope you do not mind me answering this question?
I think you will find this helmet has had the Norwegian liner added to it to "restore" the helmet. The helmet shell if a Norwegian reissue, would be overpainted at best or completely stripped back to bare metal and then repainted and re-decaled with new Norwegian decals.
As to value, well, I would be loath to buy it unless it was very, very cheap. I would say it wipes at least 50% off?
Hope this answers your question?
Cheers, Ade.

[JuanS]

thanks for your answer. That is very valuable information for me when buying a helmet like that. It is a pity as the shell and decal are so nice.

Juan

[Perry Floyd]

Adrian is correct. I would say it would take away from the value at the least 50%..

The collector market will be narrowed as well. A newbie collector with not much $ would be its likely customer...At one time I was this catagory of collector...very young and no$

[JOHN VD HEIJDEN]

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Hello to all of you thank,s for the explenation
of the liner now I know what it is still happy with
it just payed not much indeed
but what is the differnce between not much and much?


3 hair on your haid THAT IS NOT MUCH

but 3 HAIR in your soup


greeting,s Johnny

[Edelweiss]

This one is not a bad one !

I agree that this liner was surely used to rebuilt the helmet ; I saw "norwegian" liners who had only one difference with an original german liner : the dye (and size marking) ; absolutely no other modification : the leather, brads and studs, metal rings, etc... all was period (and german of course).

The best (or worse !) example is this one below : an original M.35 DD (!) reissued for the norwegian (?) army : 100 % of the liner is period, dated, the chintrap (alu buckle !) too, the original parade paint is still present inside, and even the (two !!!) decals were visible under the new paint. A heart breaker...

Stop me if I say a stupid thing, but IMO, this shell really deserves a new original and untouched liner matching its condition, John...
And with a more "classical" (I mean less "rare" )complete chinstrap.

[Edelweiss]

Have a look at the markings - among traces of reddish norwegian dye - under the leather...

[blinky]

Sorry to revive such an old thread, I'm new and keep finding so many interesting things here! One of my first helmets was a Norwegian re-issue M-35, shell stamped SF60, 1937 dated liner band, original but painted German liner (I think) size 53, and a nice chinstrap marked "Rahm Kampmann" and what looks like a 1937 date. The real downside: the outside of the shell had been repainted a dark green, you can still see the outlines of the Norwegian decals under the paint.
Oh well.

[Theodor]

You say decals, but weren't the Norwegian decals only 1 on a helmet, not two? I don't remember now. Could it be the outlines of the German decals there?

[darryl-P]

From my experience Norwegian helmets had two decals...the same style on each side.

[Theodor]

Thanks!

[Rui]

That M42 helmet shell is really beatifull. Very clean.