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    #16
    Hmmm..I guess I just learned something about the way Zimmerit wears. Never thought it would come off in such complete pieces.

    Willi
    Willi

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      #17
      Willi why don't you drop one of your zimmerit FJ helmets out of the second floor window and let me know how big the pieces are that comes off....
      Pieter.
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        #18
        Zimmert...
        Last edited by Perry Floyd; 11-25-2005, 11:26 AM.

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          #19
          I saw the helmet when it was posted with the new catalog and liked it, except for the chinstrap. However, when I looked at the other helmets being offered, with some definite liabilities, it scared me away from this one. I am sure it is gone now anyways. There catalog is much anticipated and everything usually flies outta the shop once posted.

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            #20
            What a great idea Pieter!

            Perhaps I should wear one :flak_helm and do this.... Might give me the same result.... Will let you know how the experiment comes out...

            Willi
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              #21
              It's so booooring, Perry to have things explained in detail each and every time - about helmets and also a lot of other things - to such an advanced collector as you surely are...

              Of course, of course, of course... yes, each camo is unique, OK, I agree with you, surely as anybody here that shows an IQ superior to twelve (everybody I guess). I think Mr de Lapalisse would't have said better...

              What I meant is that all the right "zimmerit" camos I saw, even if they were all different (yes, OK, d'accord, richtig about this), they had points in common. And as I said before, I'd like to see one undoubtful examplary with such a thick layer of "white something" coming out from under the paint... (to speak about this detail only)

              But foolish was I to forget that this one passed in Bill's hands :Shazam ! the blasphemator will be desintegrated...

              So strange also for a "moderator", to answer with a personal bite almost every time s.o. dares to contradict one of your definitive replies... If everybody here had the same behaviour, and was that "much" broad minded, what a battlefield it would be !
              We recently saw that - unfortunately - and not only on this forum.

              Perry, you still don't realize this is a passion only, as someone else here recently said ; and that collection is not all. Well, perhaps it is for you... Being strong on helmets is one thing, make people feel like sharing a beer with you is another. And I'd say that at least in one of these two fields, you have still progress to make.

              OK, let's go back to the topic, as surprisingly, I'm still living...
              Sehr gut, Perry, mine is not "honest" like most of my camo helmets I presume. OK. See, it's now deleted.
              And now what ? Will it change something to the problem ? Will you delete yours ? But you surely didn't notice yet it brings water to my mill...

              (don't mind, it's another french expression)

              PS : now, hang on the helm Captain, here comes the reply !
              Last edited by Edelweiss; 06-22-2003, 03:20 PM.

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                #22
                I really don't know what your trying to say...
                but anyway you wanted a answer and I gave you one. My apologys if it was not what you were expecting.
                There's nothing wrong with the camo, you think there is. That's fine. We move on..

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                  #23
                  As always !

                  OK, move on folks. I'm now only a UN observer, and on the touchline till the end of this thread...
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                    #24
                    Perry,
                    I'm with you on this camo helmet. It is unquestionably real and it is a "killer" camo apart from one or two liabilities. First the missing paint on the top. This kills it for me. I would have owned it years ago were it not for that flaw. (In fact, I think it was sent to me by Bill). Secondly, I am suspicious (but not certain) about the fact that the rivits seem to have been once painted to the shell itself.

                    Apart from Bill once owning it and apart from Perry's views on it, a real camo often speaks/discloses volumes to an experienced eye. And this one does just that. Unquestionable!

                    Also, for those who don't think this was/is a killer camo. It is a three color camo highlighted in white and red. (And more often than not lime green is just a different shade of tan). When was the last time you saw a greenish tan German helmet with white highlights???

                    Anyway, Perry's comments are almost always accurate and he is especially good with decals. I see no agenda, no spin, no favoritism and no bs in his comments. What I see are views based on experience and that takes more time in this hobby than some will ever know.
                    People should stop wasting time with silly comments.
                    John

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                      #25
                      Thanks for the comments John..
                      Now back to the zimmert. I agree the camo colors make this one special. It just has the look of a killer camo. It has a flaw or two (none about originality) loose rivets etc,. but if it didn't this would be a $1500-$1600 camo and I would be trying to get it myself...how often do you see white mixed in with the camo? It's about like traces of black, rarely encountered. Like I mentioned I feel this helmet was camo'd on two occasions..

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                        #26
                        I've been reading this thread without posting, but with interest in the helmet and with some confusion as to the other comments. It's easy to agree with Perry and John B, it's a fine and authentic camo. I also agree with Perry that it has been camo'ed at least twice. Were it a jump helmet I'd be drooling now

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                        JH
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