A top restoration?

[craig a. thomas jr]

Not to be a doubting Thomas , however these helmets that are fake in these books... is there published proof of which of them are KAMO's or Re-conditioned? I see alot of hearsay, with no meat on the bones to the opinions and so called facts. Just wondering? Rumors, second hand, third hand knowledge is worst than whisper down the lane guys. As that is all I am seeing. No definitive answers as to why Terry's or the Maertz helmet is fake. Please help another collector see the light!

I have to say I am appaulled by the "FISHING" and leading people to screw up in posting for "true" identity which is going on in this thread by a moderator no less. As it is certainly not in reference to Mr. Floyds original request to Terry's (M35) helmet nor the only helmet pictured in this is a B/W from the Maertz Collection.

Is this a boy's club where only individuals that only agree with the norm are permitted to be in? I am leading in for another spanking by saying this? Let Kapt Krabs post...nothing being posted is out of line, except maybe questioning the NORM.

[Perry Floyd]

Your first question is answered by the subject helmet, a second helmet in another forum. That is factual.
You will never see the light no matter how obvious as it affects your star player.

[Joe D]

[quote=craig a. thomas jr;2142975]
I have to say I am appaulled by the "FISHING" and leading people to screw up in posting for "true" identity which is going on in this thread by a moderator no less.


"FISHING" is not necessary to know the true identity of this individual.

[Kapt. Krabs]

Your first question is answered by the subject helmet, a second helmet in another forum. That is factual.
You will never see the light no matter how obvious as it affects your star player.

Maybe that's the problem. This isn't a "game", there are no "teams". It's a discussion with all sides represented by students of the hobby. It's great that this can take place here now. You are going after a nice guy and gentlemen because he has an opinion that some of your camos are bad. Get past it. If you are trying to "win" the game, well, heck, here you go: you win! That's all, I'm going to bed.

[Perry Floyd]

As usual alot of words hambone that say nothing, avoiding having to answer what I presented..

[Kapt. Krabs]

As usual alot of words hambone that say nothing, avoiding having to answer what I presented..

I keep getting called a hambone I don't know what you are presenting because I've seen one black and white picture and a small avatar picture. I was commenting on your vendetta against someone who doesn't think some of your camoflage helmets are original. That is your reaction when someone doesnt like one of your helmets. Thats not necessary. I think you simply insulted him away. That's a shame because Terry is a tremendous resource. I don't know what you are talking about so I can't respond other than what I already did, which is pretty clear. Good luck, you win, you da man, I'm off to bed

[craig a. thomas jr]

Your first question is answered by the subject helmet, a second helmet in another forum. That is factual.

You will never see the light no matter how obvious as it affects your star player.

Say what? "Your first question is answered by the subject helmet, a second helmet in another forum. That is factual." - Perry Floyd.

What is factual that has been presented about any of the helmets in question? No FACTS have been presented in this entire thread for someone whom is not familar with the FAKES that are referenced to view and make their own educated decisions. No documentation, links etc... Only hearsay. This is inclusive of helmets and members in question.

Again I ask members...help other collectors SEE what you SEE by providing the documented facts...will that happen?

BTW Mr. Floyd... You are now referring to "my star player" ... say WHAT? You are a bit off kilter here and presumptous, as well as making ASSUMPTION's that are rediculous. Again since I participate in several forums you automatically ASSUME things that are far from the TRUTH. I am neither defending Kapt Krabs nor attacking Kapt Krabs whomever he is. I guess your ADDENDA against ME is clear with another unprovoked broadside on me, as the question was not directed to you. However you directly now have again went on the offensive against me, making presumptions and assumptions without any provocation. What is up with this? Moderator(s)?

"FISHING" is not necessary to know the true identity of this individual.

Why is the identity of this individual so important? He is participating in a civil discussion and in some cases debate in this thread for another view on a already touchy subject... THE GERMAN COMBAT HELMET.

Will the mold may never be broken in this forum, that facts will never prevail. Only Hearsay, Unsubstanciated opinions and one liners for the new collector to aborb as truths. Please say this isn't TRUE.

[Brian Ice]

Points well taken, Kaptain.

I would indeed seem that the administration has set up these forums for free discussion, learning, and interaction; all within the confines of forum rules and guidelines, of course.

Quite a different place now than back in the days of the M45 and blue/gray para helm debates!

And please, Willi and Perry; enough with this us/them mentality; as well as with the insider/outsider, friend/foe, expert/dummy, and Roman citizen/barbarian mentalities. We are all part of the collecting community here to enjoy and discuss our beloved hobby.

Don't get me wrong: you guys have been excellent debating partners. But that fact would then make such a person a poor moderator by definition.

Though it would seem like the end of the world to some, a new age has dawned at WAF. Yes experienced collectors have left, but there are experienced collectors here now; and more are sure to follow.

Just a thought, have you guys ever thought about starting your own forum? You could run it just the way you wanted, and could keep out the barbarians.

I noticed in your signature you are searching for blue/gray para items. When you find the elusive blue/gray para helmet, please post it; we would all love to see it.

[Perry Floyd]

Hambone, Terry did say they were good, then he didn't. Pick either one. I mean it came from Terry so you know the basis for that...

No Criag you need to get people to see what YOU see
And no Luftwaffe blue para helmets posted either

[craig a. thomas jr]

No Criag you need to get people to see what YOU see

MR. FLOYD it is C R A I G, also clearly posted as my sign on name, should you require any spelling assistance. As I don't misspell your name, nor have I attack your character in this forum since being repremanded, and suspended by you. However you continue to duck and weave with avoidance as to why you are again on the offensive against me in this forum. And this with Riddles at 1:20 AM ? Again with your infamous "one liners" you obviously have no interest in educating or forwarding the hobby with other members, regardless of whom they are.

Moderators, I am sorry, however MR. FLOYD is again making baiting and harrassing statements which should be addressed. If I am in the wrong please PM me. As I have participated in this thread looking for answers concerning the subject helmet, as well as fair treatment of other members.

So I ask other members, will you post references for others to view as to what is real and what isn't in the Goodapple books?

[Perry Floyd]

What is real or fake in the Goodapple books? How do you keep missing the subject helmet for starters?
No baiting all what I say has happened.
Since you mispell mine at the island consider it even.

[Perry Floyd]

Since Terry feels he can more accurately judge a helmet from pictures rather than having it in hand let me quote him again elsewhere.

"I will also say that I think it is impossible to tell with 100% certainty from a picture whether a helmet is good or not. All helmets require a hands-on inspection to tell for sure."

[craig a. thomas jr]

What is real or fake in the Goodapple books? How do you keep missing the subject helmet for starters?
No baiting all what I say has happened.
Since you mispell mine at the island consider it even.

Opps, I am in the wrong MR. FLOYD...you are a noted, published and international recognized expert on the Camo Helmet Subject. I am still looking for those published credentials as well.

Terry can you post the helmet in your avatar so we can compare some of Bill's "restorations"? You say he's the best so we definately need to talk about them.

This is how the thread started. This HELMET has not been pictured anywhere in this thread for any kind of reference other than a 1" x 1" avitar less than 15K.

Mispell? Misspelled your name on what Island? Last thing I would do is spend time with you on or at any Island. It is late MR. FLOYD maybe you should retire for the evening, as your continued Vendetta against me is evident.

So AGAIN, I ask other members, will you post references for others to view as to what is real and what isn't in the Goodapple books, as this apparently is a sore spot for many?

[craig a. thomas jr]

This is how the thread started. This HELMET has not been pictured anywhere in this thread for any kind of reference other than a 1" x 1" avitar less than 15K.

My apologies ... as Terry's helmet avitar is pictured in B/W referenced. however how can one use that for any kind of evaluation in this thread, hence why I discounted the B/W photo. However my other question still is outstanding as to being answered.

[Ralph P]

Hello all - This thread's shelf life has expired and is now CLOSED.