A top restoration?

[Suber]

I am anxious to hear Krabs critique of this tropical helmet!

[Ralph P]

Hello all - A friendly reminder that this is the Helmet Forum and not the kneipe. Lets ensure we all keep this thread on topic about helmets with no personal attacks against other forum members. Thanks...

[Perry Floyd]

HB doesnt know if its real or not, its not his game anyhow..
Terry didn't defend me, you don't go to a Perry Floyd hate forum which has no limits(which that is all it is, nothing more), register and partake in those extremely slanderous discussions on a regular basis and claim you have no ill will towards me, please.
Terry didn't like my helmets or he did like my helmets? I don't know he's said both to two different parties so which is it. Good when he sees me, bad when he's with the disturbed lynch mob. With these BM specials I highly doubt he really knows.
Point is when he gives a opinion, now you know it's foundation.

BM was here twice as ICH Oder Du and Bubbles, search his posts and read what he says elsewhere to get a glimpse into his mindset. Very disturbing and very eye opening to those that didn't already know.

[Marc Walker]

First off..... this is not a personal attack on anybody. Just my opinion on what's going on here concerning camo on this particular forum, and adding my support for the request that has been made by Perry regarding a particular helmet and others in certain persons collections. One of those persons has taken others pictures from other sites and displayed them here for his purposes. Considering that..... I think the request to discuss his is a fair one.

I believe the truth here is..... Kapt Krabs is Hambone from the other side. I know it and so do others here.
HB was suspended from this forum in the past and also from Walhalla when he tried to promote his agenda over there.
He will deny that here because the rules are that a suspended member can not re-register under another name. They may be reinstated but that has to be cleared by the people who make the rules, so don't expect him to acknowledge that in fact...... Kapt and HB are one and the same.

It is obvious now that Perry has stepped down, there is a new guard at the gate, who may not have been involved with these individuals before and believes in giving every 'new' member his say.
Absolutely as it should be.

But...... Suddenly the 'new member' Kapt appears and "it's a fresh new day at WAF".

Pandoras box has been opened.

Already we have basically heard that the guys who were considered the experienced and respected collectors here at WAF and GDC in the past, are really just a bunch that banded together to promote and profit from fake camo.
That's why it was promoted as good. They were the ones who owned it and have sold it for "huge profits" so there's your "proof". To call a spade a spade....... they're being labled as crooks and Kapt is here to save those who don't know the truth about this fraud.

As for being here to benifit the good of the collecting community........

We now susposedly have some long involved individuals who have the experience to bring the "truth" to light.
And yet..... they actually refuse to post detailed pictures of the helmets in their collections (past or present) that could show what the real stuff really looks like.
It's flat out.... "I don't post pictures of my collection. It's not about my helmets...... it's about these helmets".
Then proceed to post pictures of others helmets.

When the help that a person has to offer has been limited to stating that others helmets are fake (sometimes from a picture that common sense would dictate is just not honestly possible) an honest question is...... show us what's right and share some of the details of your knowledge from your collection.


Anyway..... a request has been made of these individuals to step up and contribute more that just their opinion on somebody elses helmets.
Because they have been so opinionated.... I think that is a fair request if this is really all about benefitting the 'community' as a whole.

It is certainly their right to refuse and just forge ahead.
If they do...... then everybody form your own conclussion.

[lasse 47]

HEHE nice

I got 2 helmets made in the us gone send pics when the kids give me the digitalcam.....They are super nice but fantasi one is a ss camo second a dd heer....Gone put out pics asp
Regarding Lasse

[Schwerpunkt]

I believe the truth here is..... Kapt Krabs is Hambone from the other side. I know it and so do others here.
HB was suspended from this forum in the past and also from Walhalla when he tried to promote his agenda over there.
He will deny that here because the rules are that a suspended member can not re-register under another name. They may be reinstated but that has to be cleared by the people who make the rules, so don't expect him to acknowledge that in fact...... Kapt and HB are one and the same.

But...... Suddenly the 'new member' Kapt appears and "it's a fresh new day at WAF".

Pandoras box has been opened.

Probably low attendance on the Mature Crybaby Forum Marc
Another one of them is doing the same thing in the new Caps forum.

[M35]

DAK Camo

Perry

You have copied one of my posts from M C F and it is accurate. I was asked to give an opinion on the 4 anonymous camo helmets pictured there. My reply was that one was real, I had questions about the damaged decal on one, and I thought the other 2 were not real. That is an honest assessment based on the pictures furnished. A far cry from what you accused me of saying. I saw probably a thousand helmets at the SOS that weekend, I'm sorry I did not recognize 3 of those as ones you showed me months earlier. But it would not have changed my opinion. Based on the pictures alone, I still think 2 are bad, one is real, and 1 is a "maybe" if you can get past the flaked off decal.

Bill bought the palm tree camo sometime in the late 1970's from an NIU student for $35. I saw it when we first met in 1980. I liked it then and tried to talk him out of it. He would not let it go, even though he didn't then, and still doesn't, like camo helmets. It was pictured in our first book on p126 and still belonged to him when that somewhat overexposed photo was taken. We finally made a deal on it in 1982 and it has been mine since. He told me that there was an overcoating of light tan, obviously post war applied paint, over most of the outer surface (you can see some variance in colors even in the black and white photo you have posted), which he subsequently removed. Even knowing that, I still thought it was a real palm tree camo helmet when I acquired it from him, and I do to this day. What you see in my avatar picture is the result, the darker original camo paint and more worn spots now showing. So yes, it was "restored" in the sense that some bogus paint was removed. I fully realize that makes it taboo in the eyes of some, and that's fine, I respect that opinion. It doesn't mean the helmet is fake. As I've repeatedly stated, I would not have it in my collection if I thought it was fake.

I have also stated that I belong to several forums. Four to be exact. I participate sometimes, and I like to think I contribute something to all. I get along with most people. I don't think it makes us bad people because we belong to M C F or any of the forums. In fact, it is humorous that you know so much about M C F and spend so much time there yourself, knowing how you despise it.

Cheers,
Terry

[Perry Floyd]

You had the helmets in hand to look over carefully saying they were very nice to later saying they are bad going by on-line pictures and now you stay with that. You judge much better by pictures only, rather than having the helmet in hand, please. Very pathetic..
If Martin needs to go back to Marc you definately need to go back to BM for some refunds.
Terry your helmet is a BM special and I'm sure not the only one. Then have the nerve to be one of the leading bashers of other collectors helmets to fit your agenda? That's a good one..
You don't post pictures because you have to protect many of your helmets, because you know the result otherwise.
Although I and a few others already knew, all will know now the foundation of your opinions.
VERY biased and agenda driven with little or no regard to being accurate. Then your close associations..

[M35]

Adios

Perry

Nothing I say is going to make any difference to you. So go ahead, have fun and knock yourself out, then move on to your next vendetta. You are the one with an agenda here, that's pretty obvious.

Terry

[Kapt. Krabs]

Wow, I go off to work and the hissing, spitting, and scratching starts Seriously guys, I've been called worse than a hambone It's funny, but he's moderator at both German rifle forums, one is big, 34,000 members, and he doesnt ban, censor, and its all great. I wonder how he could be asked to moderate at both forums if they all didnt get along and he was the devil and a troublemaker a few of you say

Anyway, Mr. Perry Floyd I see youre back to being all angry and puffed up over people disagreeing with your helmets again. No offense, but I think its good that this is a discussion forum with other opinions allowed. I and others dont care WHO the helmet belongs to, heck, dont even tell me its yours. I dont care who owns it. That doesnt matter most places, but I guess to some thats what sells it. Take a breath and lighten up and stop attacking Terry. Just because they dont like your helmet doesnt mean they dont like you

Walter, I'll be happy to comment, but I dont see the pics. I do place weight on people that have years in the hobby and have seen alot. Seems like some people try to act like they know everything and anyone that disagrees with them knows nothing and is a troublemaker and should be banned. Thats pretty sad but I see things have changed here and thats good for everyone

I think once someone spends several thousand dollars for something they are then emotionally married to it. Thats a natural human reaction. Just because someone spent all that money and is married to it doesnt necessarily make it right and doesnt make others opinions worthless
Krabs

[Perry Floyd]

Perry

Nothing I say is going to make any difference to you. So go ahead, have fun and knock yourself out, then move on to your next vendetta. You are the one with an agenda here, that's pretty obvious.

Terry

Absolutely and it's exposing you for what you really are.

[Kapt. Krabs]

Absolutely and it's exposing you for what you really are.

Terry has been exposed as a really nice fellow and a gentleman. Not that it required exposing. He's handled more helmets than most of us combined and put out one of the first books that helped our interest in this hobby. He was collecting helmets when you were probably in a diaper. From what I saw, he really did go to bat for you Mr. Floyd. He doesn't go with the crowd, which is why you dont like him. He doesnt like your helmets because that is his opinion, just like you have an opinion. Its nothing against you so dont take it emotionally and personally. Be nice.

[PAB]

Sound words, Kapt. Ive never seen Terry sell or guarantee for life any helmet . Seems like someones panty elastic has been chaffing at the edges. A persons worth and value are not judged on how much, or who or what they love but how much they are loved and respected by by others. I think its self evident where most people stand. Pete

[Suber]

I personally think that the B/W pic that Perry posted of the tropical looks like an ebay special to me, what with the nice surface effects into the paint with a wire utensil. It looks like something I have seen on ebay like pastworldantiques sells. This is my humble, uneducated opinion of course.

[Kapt. Krabs]

Suber, that b/W pic is terrible and I cant tell much from it. Is there another pic or bigger comparison pics?