Originally posted by DeMil
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I definitely agree Derek. Being an SS camo is a big plus for sure! -
M40 SS Camo
Originally posted by Dan P View Post
Which proves the point..........a beat up, damaged, cracked, decal mostly gone, liner gone, SD SS versus a "rare in any condition" SD SS CAMO? I think the difference in value there is well worth the effort for some enterprising soul to paint up an otherwise almost uncollectable piece. Add to that all the question marks outlined, and it has to get a thumbs down in my eyes.
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I'd say this helmet is probably only worth $1000 or so right now in this condition, if you could even find someone interested. Add to that the difficulty in working with these cracks. I hardly think it would be worth the effort and far too difficult to make look convincing anyway. I like the helmetOriginally posted by M35 View Post
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for your helmet! Jerry
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I normally don't comment on camo's but I must concur with Terry on this one.
My reasoning is along what Terry already points out and a couple of statements made in the helmets presentation kind of got me going...
"The dekal is a bit yellow from agetoning and use, it looks and on one place there is a bigger damage on it, were the paint has gone and some very small rust has"
The decal from pics provided is far more than a "bit" yellow. It is completely toned and beaten. There is paint overtop of the decal that appears applied well after the toning and aging process. The decal area looks -from pics posted- closer to a ground dug relic, with newer paint applied over the bottom left of the decal. The paint doesnt appear to match the rest of the helmets condition, in particular the aging and rough appearance of the decal area.
In fact is the decal even original? Almost the entire right half is rust eaten, yet described as "some very small rust has". 50% of the decal is gone due to rust. Thats more than very small and the condition of the decal is completely oversold.
The paint overtop of the bottom left side of the decal obscures a very important part of the decal SS collectors use for determining originality and type. I always am suspicious about a decal when the only scratch on a decal is in this area. This one is covered by paint.
"But on the other hand this SS camo. helmet is one of few known originals"
That statement needs Pre-May-45 photographic backup - and wouldnt mind clarification of what a "known original" is or means by collectors out there. Does that mean ALL collectors agree it is original?
Does that mean that MOST collectors agree it is original?
Does that mean there is some irrefutable evidence it is original?
Does that mean that the helmet owner has photographic proof of its use/construction/decaling/painting pre-May 45?
What constitutes a "known original?" and does this helmet fit into that category?Last edited by SSTk; 08-08-2007, 09:06 PM.Comment
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Concerning the decal I have doubts , and the wear of the painting is also strange. Need clearer pictures !Comment
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Doesn't look an original decal to me, closes would help.
About the camo, not really into that, but I wouldn't buy it for sure, doesn't look like a proper camo to me, just have a look at the few SS camo helmets around and you will understand what I mean.
Cheers
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Pic of the decal seems very close and clear to me. The decal should be of least concern and is quite original IMO. I'm actually surprised the camo is getting knocked as much as it is. Perhaps it's more a statement of the paranoia surrounding camo helmets at this point.
As a side note, Kelly Hicks states original SS camos for the most part seem to have been hastily done. I think this one would qualify in that sense.
I'm fightin' for ya Derek! Tough crowd though.Comment
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Somoe time ago a Heer camo helemt, almost the same pattern with the same ware was posted, and id dint get any thumbs down, I still believ that this helmet is 100%
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Using my negatron machine I can see there are no scratches to the surface which is odd imo on a heavilly used combat helmet .Second picture is one of mine I had on file and it has a myriad of scratches .RobGod please take justin bieber and gave us dio backComment
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Mine note scratches .RobGod please take justin bieber and gave us dio backComment
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The helmet looks totaly unused , very usefull pictures !
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replay
I have a M40 helmet shell with a fake SS decal at home and once i gave it to my 6 years old son to make me a camo look and i must say that his paint work was far more convinsing than this one !
If you wont to hide fake SS decal you simply use sand paper and afterwards put in the ground for one month and you will have tricky SS helmet, so i think that with such helmets where the decal cant be determine as 100% original is usualy a fake and so is this helmet, a fake SS camo wonebie !!!
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Thanks DanOriginally posted by Dan P View Post
I understand this is a very difficult helmet.
Original SS camo. helmets are rare seen so as you write Dan, there can easy be a statement of paranoia around SS camo. helmets and this spesific helmet.
Tomorrow I will take some realy nice closeups and show you places were the camo.paint has old scratches here and there and around the rim were all the paint is gone etc.
I use dayligth and macro.function on my camera. Now it is nigth and dark here in Norway.
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OK GUYS !
I hope these new pictures can help !!!
I took them this time under strong lampligth !
All the paint around the rim is worn away !Comment
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