M 42 Double Runic ckl 68

[Dan P]

Thanks , men.
I defer to the more experianced hands, and agree...ET it is.
Paul

You mean EF, correct Paul?

[pfschgo]

oops!

[TonyM]

Excellent helmet Paul, another nice one for the collection.
Tony

[Paolo]

The other is a CA Pocher shield

You're right. An unusual combination EF and Pocher decals on a CKL shell. Interesting

[VonLuck]

Weren't these helmets for foreign volunteers only? Any guesses where from?

[darryl-P]

You're right. An unusual combination ET and Pocher decals on a CKL shell. Interesting

We'll have to try and keep our "typos" to a minumum or some collectors may become confused at this thread. The decals on this M42 helmet are EF 1st pattern and a Pocher 1st pattern. The EF is factory applied while the Pocher is the field-applied (probably foriegn volunteer) decal on the helmet.

I believe the helmet shell itself is also an EF. Perhaps Paul can corroborate that for us.

Cheers,

[solo]

We'll have to try and keep our "typos" to a minumum or some collectors may become confused at this thread. The decals on this M42 helmet are EF 1st pattern and a Pocher 1st pattern. The EF is factory applied while the Pocher is the field-applied (probably foriegn volunteer) decal on the helmet.

I believe the helmet shell itself is also an EF. Perhaps Paul can corroborate that for us.

Cheers,

I agree with you Darryl
In any case a wonderlful and rare lid
Carlo

[pfschgo]

Thanks for the clarification, Darryl. The only readable stampings are the batch number. I remember your sketch of the helmet makers profiles..um, I would like to see that again!
I did have a brief email exchange with Mr. Hicks about the origin of the helmet, and he posited the Finnish Legion. Perhaps some period pics exist?
Paul

[Paolo]

[quote=darryl-P;1859786]We'll have to try and keep our "typos" to a minumum or some collectors may become confused at this thread. The decals on this M42 helmet are EF 1st pattern and a Pocher 1st pattern. The EF is factory applied while the Pocher is the field-applied (probably foriegn volunteer) decal on the helmet.

I believe the helmet shell itself is also an EF. Perhaps Paul can corroborate that for us.

Cheers,[/
You're absolutely right, my previous message has been corrected.
Sorry about that.

Paul
Are you sure this is a ckl ? It would be interesting to see that an EF shell was placed a shell produced by this manufacturer

[Paolo]

Paul
Are you sure this is a ckl ? It would be interesting to see that an EF shell was placed a shell produced by this manufacturer

I looked again to the pictures and it actually looks more like an EF than a CKL/ET shell to me.
Just my two cents

[Paolo]

Perhaps some period pics exist?
Paul

Plenty of pics of the Finnish guys in "Wikingin suomalaiset" (1996) by Kari Kuusela and Olli Wikberg and in "Meine Ehre Heisst Treue"(1999( by Olli Wikberg. The two books are really woth the money.

Finnish volunteers were certainly wearing double runic helmets with "1st pattern runes" on. However it impossible to say if they were Pocher/Q/EF from those pics.

Paolo

[Dan P]

ET and EF M42's seem so close, but I would bet dollars to donuts it's an EF shell.