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    Tell Me What You Think!

    Well, after missing a bid on Ebay for a MINT Q66 M40 Luft this morning - I was very pleasantly suprised to get this in the mail!

    It is, what I believe to be, an M35 Tropical camo. I can just make out NS and the size 6 (it looks like a 64). It looks like it was originally a dark green overpaint with a thick layer of sawdust or some other texture mixed in. The texture is so thick that it has a look like a cantaloupe. Then it looks like a tan camo paint was painted over it. From any distance, but up close, the camo looks like it has some type of stripe scheme to it, but closer examination shows the camo paint in the crevices of the texturing material throughout the helmet surface.

    The interior surface is overpainted with a dark green paint and ends at the liner band. The band shows traces of this paint as well. The leather liner is a little dry, but not as bad as I would have thought. It is very dirty but completely intact. No stampings in the interior of the liner, but it has darkened somewhat. The liner pins look like they have been there for a long time with a nice buildup on the washers and the pins are straight.

    The chinstrap looks in a little better shape than the liner, but not so much so that I would automatically say it was replaced. It is stamped:

    Lagessa
    Dresden
    1938


    Last! Painted in the rear of the skirt is several items.

    Am. (next it not legible - H. W.?) Kall or Keil

    Next is R.A.D (Reichsarbeitsdienst?) 51312 101 or A01

    Finally on the bottom are the initials G. W.

    My wife immediately informed me of the "smell". She has the nose of a hawk, so I asked her if she smelled paint - she said no - sweat. She often says the same of me...

    This is the preliminary inspection. The helmet, including the inscription is covered in dust. I will try to look better at the letters under a black light, perhaps that will make them more visible. I will also try a very light paint brush to remove some of the dust.

    There you have it! Any comments/opinions are welcomed and sought!

    A few questions as well, aside from your thoughts on originality

    Could this be a helmet issued to RAD personal?
    Is the series of numbers a FPN? If so, can anyone help me with that?
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                Another of the front of the shell
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                  Finally a closeup of the texture. This is a good idea of how thick the paint was saturated with sawdust. I think you can see the "cantaloupe" look. Also, the area around the liner pin.

                  I can post more pictures if need be.
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                    Hi Mark
                    Surely its a very nice camo in my opinion, but i dont belive the RAD camoed they helmets! or maybe it has been a RAD helmet before to camoed, its only a considerations!

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                      #11
                      Got combat salt all over it. Don't think anybody is going to question that one.
                      If you got that off ebay for a decent price I would say it was a good catch...

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                        A little more...

                        51312

                        (8.9.1943-22.4.1944) 18.2.1944 Hallenbau-Kompanie Ma 11/XI 1. Zug,
                        (23.4.1944-24.11.1944) 24.8.1944 gestrichen.


                        Any help with this unit? Is it some kind of construction/pionier unit?

                        Thank to Ade Stevenson for the fast answer!

                        Yes the helmet came from ebay. I hope it was a good deal...

                        The story is that it came from a widow of a navy veteran. I do not know if he was a WW2 vet or if he was a former navy guy that collected. This was in a garage with some bayonets. For what that is worth...

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                          Anybody else? Surely with 143 viewings there is some opinion

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                            The darkened liner is typical of 'tropical camos'.

                            The Italian theatre or Greece perhaps! always nice to speculate.


                            Billy

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                              Well, maybe this will help. I think it unlikely that someone intending to reproduce a tropical camo would find this unit and FPN to put in a helmet for reproduction. Just a little more convincing IMO.

                              Hallenbau-Kp. Ma. 11/XI d.Lw.

                              Luftwaffe Hangar Construction Co. Ma. 11/XI

                              This one was raised in Luftgau XI in North Germany and was then sent to eastern Poland/western Belorussia to build hangars on rear-area airfields that the Luftwaffe wanted as large, permanent overhaul sites. Between Feb 42 and Aug 42, it was at Baranowicze/East Poland.

                              Toward the end of 1942, the Luftwaffe was operating in crisis mode to build up its infrastructure in the Mediterranean following the debacle in Libya and the Operation Torch invasion in western North Africa. This Kp. was transferred from eastern Poland to Cagliari/Sardinia and was building hangars and other infrastructure there in Feb 43 under Lw.-Feldbauamt Sardinien. The Kp. remained in the Italian theater until it was disbanded at the beginning of Feb 44. Its 1. Zug was spun off, given its own Feldpost number (51312), and continued operating until it too was disbanded in mid-August 1944.

                              That's all I have. Unfortunately, I do not know the meaning of the abbreviation "Ma." in this context. That abbreviation is most normally encountered as the abbreviation for Munitionsanstalt (Munitions Establishment).


                              Thanks for the help from BHS1956!

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