Authentic or not

[Hofstetter]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows something about testing paint for age.
I'm looking at an allgemeine SS helmet.
As it would be a considerable outlay to buy such an item , i want to know if the black paint on the shell could be tested for age, or maybe the type of paint they used in those days.
If anyone knows anything about such things i would be glad to here from you.
More photo's below

Greg

[ROBB]

Post a pic then the guys will tell you if its real or fake for free .Rob.

[Hofstetter]

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Post a pic then the guys will tell you if its real or fake for free .Rob.

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[Donald L.]

Greg,

"Manage Attachments"
"Browse" (locate your files)
Select the file to be uploaded with your mouse
"Upload" your selected file
"Close Window"
"Post"

Just a tip on images, I use Photoshop to resize, as if they are too large then it gets cumbersome.

I myself do not currently collect SS, but there are colleagues here who are experts. Typically the first step in validation of these helmets is the authentication of the decals, so if you can, include candid closeups of those, as well as the overall helmet and components.

Best of Luck,
Don

[Hofstetter]

Photo's

Well i finally figured out how to attach the photo's. I was doing the right thing all along but when i previewed the posts the photo's weren't showing.

Anyway i'll send a couple more , let me know what you think
Greg

[Hofstetter]

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Decal

[Hofstetter]

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Liner
I'm no expert but the unpainted brass riverts look sus unless the paint has just worn of them over the years. Also the liner band looks like it might be a later aluminium type (to late for 1934 period ) with the reenforcing on the sides where the chin strap D's are.
Greg

[bodes]

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[RGD51]

This is not an RZM helmet but is a fake SS/VT. Post war contrivance...IMO.


Robert

[Hofstetter]

Greg, I'm no expert on these either.....My thoughts are the shell should be RZM'd somewhere on the skirt area.......Can you see any such mark at all?.....Bodes

Hi Bodes
I don't think there are any RZM stampings on the shell or i think they would have been specified.
I Know there were such stamped helmets but i don't think all these allgemeine ss helmets were as such. I think a lot of normal M16's and M18's were used as well.
Greg

[bodes]

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[RGD51]

These early ca. 1934 SS/VT's had hand stencilled insignia. They are mega rare with few known in existence. The RZM helmet is an entirely different helmet.

Robert

[Hofstetter]

This is not an RZM helmet but is a fake SS/VT. Post war contrivance...IMO.


Robert

Hi Robert
My first impressions were that it was fake, but i was sort of hoping it wasn't as i would really love to have an original one of these, but anyway i'll keep dreaming

Greg

[Hofstetter]

These early ca. 1934 SS/VT's had hand stencilled insignia. They are mega rare with few known in existence. The RZM helmet is an entirely different helmet.

Robert

Hello again Robert
I must be writing my replies while your sending yours
Thanks for the input guys, I can put my mind at rest
Greg