Ex Italian m40 (?) officer tunic modified to German standards

[tankredi]

This tunic also got to me recently.
An ex Italian m40 Officer or NCO jacket, period converted to German standards.

The collar is actually green, it was also added by the Germans.

I am not a connoisseur when it comes to German uniforms, but in this case i would say it looks like a German m43 tunic.

Initially I wanted to transform it back to Italian standard, now I start thinking...

[tankredi]

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one can see the shadow of the German collar tab that was once on

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typical Italian lining

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green collar

[Semovente]

Nice one Tankredi ...very interesting find..i know the Germans liked usein captured kit...i would think its for issue to second line troops ?...or even Volkssturm units as they made use of all of kinfs of uniforms/equipment that they could lay their hands on !?...Semovente

[NickG]

Yes definitely some kind of conversion. It lacks belt supports (no holes) among other things so its not German made (not standard production)
using foreign materials....(wool) Intriguing! It is a modification of some sort...
I like it but not something textbook collectors would look for...

I find it interesting!
Can we see the interior? Liner?

[tankredi]

Yes definitely some kind of conversion. It lacks belt supports (no holes) among other things so its not German made (not standard production)
using foreign materials....(wool) Intriguing! It is a modification of some sort...
I like it but not something textbook collectors would look for...

I find it interesting!
Can we see the interior? Liner?

The lining is gone.

What is puzzling me is the green collar.
I have learned that only on German army m36 tunics a green collar was present.
Later on only German Custom / Border Police tunics had a green collar.

[Semovente]

Tankredi...found this pic that shows a Dutch tunic thats been converted like your Italian jacket with green coller to look like M36...so it seems this was a common practise by the Germans !....Semovente

[tankredi]

Very interesting, thanks!

[Zip3120]

Yes definitely some kind of conversion. It lacks belt supports (no holes) among other things so its not German made (not standard production)
using foreign materials....(wool) Intriguing! It is a modification of some sort...
I like it but not something textbook collectors would look for...

I find it interesting!
Can we see the interior? Liner?

Hi Tankredi I am not sure that yours is an Italian converted tunic. I would like to see better photos of the fabric and lining.
However I agree with Nick it is some kind of conversion to a non-standard German production.

I have often seen that green collar on foreign volunteer tunics.
Here is my tunic found in Italy many years ago with a similar green collar.







You can see more details here http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=123119&page=2

[Semovente]

Zip3120...thats a very nice rare POA tunic...just the breast badge on it alone is a rare item !..fantastic to see...

[Zip3120]

Zip3120...thats a very nice rare POA tunic...just the breast badge on it alone is a rare item !..fantastic to see...

Thanks Semovente, I am happy you like it...
this tunic came with a pair of Dutch trousers, german modified.
I'll post them soon.

Here are some pics of my POA mannequin in the Italian campaign, near Anzio in 1944.
He is wearing the Dutch trousers, a Russian belt and an M35 Hungarian helmet.

[tankredi]

Well, initially i was thinking this was an modified Italian jacket.
The shape of the pockets, the shape of the flaps, the lining on the rear of the flaps and the material of the main body made me think so.

By now I have found out the following:
- whilst the flaps are made of Italian material the breast pockets seam to be made of another type of wool.
- same for main body of the jacket, but sleeves are different material. Or maybe the difference in color and materiel surface comes from wear
- same can be observed on the rear where the central part of the main body is good Italian wool, whilst the shoulder parts are somehow darker in appearance.
Maybe the wear hypothesis is correct?

stamps on the buttons:
buttons to close the jacket: 2x Etra A Fein, 2x DSS, 1x unredable
buttons for shoulderboards: 2x Extra A Fein
buttons for pockers: 2x Extra A Fein, 1x C.T.H Dicke, 1x Extra Fein A

[tankredi]

The tunic does not have (and apparently never had since there are no holes) the Typical German metallic loops for the belt.