Itanian Medal ID

[Ben@HI]

dose anybody know a website were I can look up Italian Medals?

[Ben@HI]

I don't know a lot about Italian medals but I ended up with some and I am having a hard time ID'ing them. I was told they were brought home by a WW2 vet.

[enorepap]

Hallo Ben A nice lot

n. 1: Royal Air Force Cross in Italian East Africa but with uncorrect ribbon for the Medaglia commemorativa del lavoro in Africa Orientale Italiana (regio decreto 25 agosto 1938, n. 1916). The original one was blue with three central thin strips of green / white / red colours
n. 2: 2ndCorps commemorative cross for East African Campaign with the original red ribbon
n. 3: 4thCorps commemorative cross for East African Campaign with a generic AOI ribbon (the original ribbon was a green one)
http://www.iagiforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=10117
n. 4: merit medal of the Command of the 4th Eritreans Battalions Group
http://www.ilcornodafrica.it/fs-cimeli.htm
http://mediterraneanwar.com/node/1319
http://blog.libero.it/wrnzla/5320751.html
n. 5: war merit cross
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croce_al_merito_di_guerra
n. 6: commemorative medal of the 51st Colonial Battalion (I enclose you a postcard of this unit):
http://www.ebay.it/itm/AOI-LI-BATTAG...-/351436128187
n. 7: commemorative medal (diameter 41 mm.) of the 1st Meeting on Mussolini’s Peak and Lake Tana offered by the Governor of the Amara State to the participants. On the front is represented a stylized Lake Tana with, in the background, the highest peak of the Gorgora peninsula, renamed Mussolini’Peak and a flash of light. On the Edge it is written: 24-5-XVI - 1st Meeting on the Mussolini’s peak and Lake Tana. On the back of the medal is depicted the badge of the March on Gondar and below in relief: To the end - The Governor - of the Amara State – to - the partecipants.
n. 8: academic merit medal of the Royal Grammar School in Florence (I enclose you a postcard of this high school):
http://www.ebay.it/itm/RM52-CARTOLIN...4AAOSw5ZBWL5hD
n. 9 & 10: commemorative medal of military operations in East Africa 1935-1936
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medagl...rica_Orientale
n. 11: commemorative medal of military operations in East Africa 1935-1936 (for fighting personnel)
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medagl...rica_Orientale
n. 12: commemorative medal of the 1915 - 1918 war for the fulfillment of the unification of Italy, but with a ribbon of the commemorative medal of the Volunteer Division Littorio in AOI
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medagl...iaca_1915-1918
n. 13: Inter-Allied commemorative medal for victory, but with an, almost to me, unknown ribbon
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medagl...ttoria_(Italia)
n. 14: commemorative medal of the Eritrean Corps, with a generic AOI blue-black ribbon
http://blog.libero.it/wrnzla/5853127.html
http://monetemondo.altervista.org/me...itreo.jpg.html
http://www.faleristica.it/variante.php?id=589
http://numismatica-italiana.lamoneta...pilogo/W-ME61J
n. 15: commemorative Medal of the African Campaigns
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medagl...gne_d%27Africa
n.16: commemorative medal of the Italo-Turkish War
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medagl...urca_1911-1912

[Controbanda]

Number one

EIA EIA ALALA' for Enorepap!!..number one.. May I book you during militariaexpo in Italy?

[enorepap]

EIA EIA ALALA' for Enorepap!!..number one.. May I book you during militariaexpo in Italy?

Ciao controbanda

Thanks for your booking. Also I would come willingly, but they are many years that I have ceased to attend the exhibition&markets of militaria ... too many temptations ...

[Semovente]

Ciao controbanda

Thanks for your booking. Also I would come willingly, but they are many years that I have ceased to attend the exhibition&markets of militaria ... too many temptations ...

Never say never enorepap !!.....

[enorepap]

Never say never enorepap !!.....

It 's true: never say never in this life.

I started collecting military objects (mainly uniforms of the Royal Army) in the '70s when I was very young. But now the market is impossible and the prices have come to madness. I therefore understand the advice the older collectors then gave me: knowledge is the most important thing in our field of interest, rather than piling up hundreds of uniforms for the sake of property.

[Raffaello Carola]

nice medals some are not common..
Enorepap or "Paperone"we can see some photos of your collection? We are curious
best
Raff

[enorepap]

Hallo Raffaello

This is a forum dedicated mainly to the German militaria and then I put in, especially in the years 2007 to 2009, some images of my (little if compared to the Italian section) collection of german headgears and uniforms. I enclose you these images (just the ones that survived), because they have been reproduced thanks to the courtesy of other collectors:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=218299
post 2 (kreager’s courtesy)

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=396993
post 8 – 11 -12 (before restoration with the appropriate eagle, company-linge’s courtesy)

and perhaps a few others because the system does not recognize the others I sent by myself in those years, including some Italian headdresses and uniforms. As you see, I am speaking only occasionally in the Italy section of the forum. I should therefore make me want to digitize the images I own, then figure out how to gets (at that time I asked my wife to send my pictures, because I’m quite ignorant about computers), etc. All this in a period in which, for the reasons I earlier said, I'm seriously thinking, though reluctantly, to dedicate myself to the army of the republic until the '70s, because at least you can afford to buy something without having to pay several liters of blood ...

[Ben@HI]

Thanks for the help, I don't normally see a lot of Italian medals as I mostly collect US gear but these looked interesting and they were in a lot with a bunch of US insignia, patches and gear. i tried to look them up on my own but i was having trouble as some of the ones i could find had different ribbons from the medals i had, i should have known that someone had put the wrong ribbons on them. i did find the commemorative medal of the 1st Meeting on Mussolini’s Peak and Lake Tana on another site however the info they had was for a bronze medal and the one i have is 800 silver and i could not find any info on the silver one at all. some like the academic merit medal of the Royal Grammar School and the commemorative medal of the 51st Colonial Battalion i could not find anything at all that even resembled them. i really appreciate all your help.

[Ben@HI]

almost forgot, the lot this these came from belonged to a US vet that spent some time in north Africa during the war, do you guys think he could have picked these up there?

[enorepap]

almost forgot, the lot this these came from belonged to a US vet that spent some time in north Africa during the war, do you guys think he could have picked these up there?

This group of medals is mainly related to Italian East Africa and therefore I do not think it came from an American veteran. Perhaps an English or an Indian, except insofar as they were taken during the Italian campaign. But I think this is a question almost impossible to find: in fact, in the group there are medals of the first African campaigns and of WW1 and therefore it is unlikely they belonged to the same person. The only one who could perhaps answer your question is the seller, but also in this case the complete batch may have been assembled by someone else before he came in possession.

[Semovente]

Hallo Raffaello

This is a forum dedicated mainly to the German militaria and then I put in, especially in the years 2007 to 2009, some images of my (little if compared to the Italian section) collection of german headgears and uniforms. I enclose you these images (just the ones that survived), because they have been reproduced thanks to the courtesy of other collectors:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=218299
post 2 (kreager’s courtesy)

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=396993
post 8 – 11 -12 (before restoration with the appropriate eagle, company-linge’s courtesy)

and perhaps a few others because the system does not recognize the others I sent by myself in those years, including some Italian headdresses and uniforms. As you see, I am speaking only occasionally in the Italy section of the forum. I should therefore make me want to digitize the images I own, then figure out how to gets (at that time I asked my wife to send my pictures, because I’m quite ignorant about computers), etc. All this in a period in which, for the reasons I earlier said, I'm seriously thinking, though reluctantly, to dedicate myself to the army of the republic until the '70s, because at least you can afford to buy something without having to pay several liters of blood ...

Enorepap..do i detect a little disatisfaction with current world of collecting ?..ie paying with buckets of blood !!?......semovente

[enorepap]

Hallo semovente

This is an old story. Sellers do their job and without them a lot of stuff would end fed to worms and mold. On the other hand, the collectors can not live only of donations of friends and exchanges in their own little circle. However, since the 80-90 years the fashion of vintage items has spread and consequently the sellers (and many collectors/ sellers only interested in the value of an uncut jacket of a general but perhaps disgusted with that of an ordinary infantryman found in a chicken coop and defining as "free-range" their fetched fake item, with the secret purpose of selling them to some gullible fool) have started to go overboard, thinking they could build a real estate empire selling four rusty helmets or a tattered jacket. Historically speaking, there have always been very popular and greedy sellers in the main towns, but that market, in which the offer was very extensive, allowed even young people to build some decent and cheaply collections. Tonight I saw on eBay a cute GAF alpine hat + a very battered 2nd lieutenant M34 jacket ending to almost 500 Euros (ie the equivalent of the minimum monthly pension of an elderly person !!!) That is, one million old lira. As Totò said; do me some favor, please ...

Marcello

[Semovente]

Hallo semovente

This is an old story. Sellers do their job and without them a lot of stuff would end fed to worms and mold. On the other hand, the collectors can not live only of donations of friends and exchanges in their own little circle. However, since the 80-90 years the fashion of vintage items has spread and consequently the sellers (and many collectors/ sellers only interested in the value of an uncut jacket of a general but perhaps disgusted with that of an ordinary infantryman found in a chicken coop and defining as "free-range" their fetched fake item, with the secret purpose of selling them to some gullible fool) have started to go overboard, thinking they could build a real estate empire selling four rusty helmets or a tattered jacket. Historically speaking, there have always been very popular and greedy sellers in the main towns, but that market, in which the offer was very extensive, allowed even young people to build some decent and cheaply collections. Tonight I saw on eBay a cute GAF alpine hat + a very battered 2nd lieutenant M34 jacket ending to almost 500 Euros (ie the equivalent of the minimum monthly pension of an elderly person !!!) That is, one million old lira. As Totò said; do me some favor, please ...

Marcello

Yes i know what you mean very true indeed...would not like to be starting out with a collection now !!.. €£$...big bucks needed for most of it...cheers & regards ...Semovente.