Hello Gents...this item was left me by a mate who's old neighbour was at Tobruk during the seige ..he was one of the famous Rats of Tobruk!!...he picked this Eagle up during his time in North Africa.. from he said some ruined Italian buildings that were bombed out!!..not sure but iam thinking its a flag pole top..??..there is faint traces of gilt paint in places on the alluminium body..thoughts please thanks ..Semovente..
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Originally posted by Semovente View PostFascist Eagle ??
... this item was left me by a mate who's old
neighbour was at Tobruk during the seige ...
he picked this Eagle up during his time in North
Africa.. from he said some ruined Italian buildings
that were bombed out!!... not sure but iam thinking
its a flag pole top..??... thoughts please thanks ...
Semovente..
Interesting neo-Roman looking eagle, depending
on size IMO more likely a building decoration since
the back has no feather details which a flag pole
top would have. I have several two sided Fascist
Italian standard eagles in my collection, and also
some Hollywood movie examples based on those
actually used by the Ancient Roman Army Legions.
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PS/ For more on eagles in my collection see WAF t=687929
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Originally posted by oldflagswanted View PostHello Semovente:
Interesting neo-Roman looking eagle, depending
on size IMO more likely a building decoration since
the back has no feather details which a flag pole
top would have. I have several two sided Fascist
Italian standard eagles in my collection, and also
some Hollywood movie examples based on those
actually used by the Ancient Roman Army Legions.
.............................. OFW ...........................
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PS/ For more on eagles in my collection see WAF t=687929
to all Italians which usually are in this part of the forum ... I strongly suggest to follow OFW's link , is an amazing part of our ( italian ) history as well ... ok , I know we don't really have good feeling with French cousins but you had to read it !!!
thank you OFW
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Originally posted by Semovente View Post..thoughts please thanks ..Semovente..
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Thanks gents for your very interesting imput..yes Old flags wanted ..i think your point that the eagles rear is without detail makes it more likely to have come off a Fascist building something similar to Controbanda's pic..and it was as the old desert Rat said ..found in the ruins of some Italian building ..which he then bought back in his kit bag!..also as Paolorubens pointed out check out OFW link..Excellent ....cheers & thanks Semovente.
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more about collecting eagles ...
Originally posted by PAOLORUBENS View Post... to all Italians which usually are in this part of the forum ...
I strongly suggest to follow OFW's link , is an amazing part
of our ( italian ) history as well ... ok , I know we don't really
have good feeling with French cousins but you had to read it !!!
thank you OFW
OFW
Originally posted by Semovente View Post... as Paolorubens pointed out check out OFW link..Excellent
....cheers & thanks Semovente.
OFW
Originally posted by Ironcrown View PostThe French Empire also used this kind of eagle, although usually
with the head turned to the opposite side
eagles, per cited WAF t=687929.
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(above) WW2 Italian Fascist (center)
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2 cents or SESTERTII ???
Originally posted by PAOLORUBENS View Post... wondering why if is aluminum could be part of building ?
most of pre war italian architecture was all about stones ,
maybe was a setting or something not directly related to
the building .
my ... fantasy ... 2 cents
Paolo
Good point. Size is not stated, but likely it is
not very large, as brought back by a soldier.
Actual use speculation could be endless, but
nevertheless an interesting relic eagle IMO.
OFW
(below) "my ... fantasy ... 2 cents", or SESTERTII
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Originally posted by PAOLORUBENS View PostOFW , you are very welcome thumbs
Just considering options ... I am wondering why if is aluminum could be part of building ? most of pre war italian architecture was all about stones , maybe was a setting or something not directly related to the building .
my ... fantasy ... 2 cents
Paolo
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I spoke to my friend who was given the eagle by the old veteran..and he had no fresh info to shed on the subject !....but he dug this compass out for me that the old boy had also bought back !!...so i was suprised and very pleased as he told me that the ex Gunner had said that this was taken off an Italian POW in North Africa...cheers
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