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    Hello to all members. Recently, I was looking to a couple of photos of LUCE archive from the Greek island of Leros. Just for a short briefing, Leros was a quite big naval base during ww2. In every mountain there were batteries with a variety of guns, including naval - coast artillery (152/50 mm, 120/45 mm, 102/35 mm), anti torpedo batteries ( 102/35 mm, 76/50 mm, 16/40 mm) and anti aircraft batteries (102/35 mm, 90/53 mm, 76/40 mm).
    In the numbered photos that follow, I have written on them my questions to you.
    Any info or opinions about the type of the guns would be very helpful to my research.
    Thank you in advance.
    Best regards,
    Nick
























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    ................Sorry for off topic.......
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      #3
      First: I agree, Navy's Breda
      Last: Scotti 20mm.

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        #4
        Originally posted by ILVEROMILITE View Post
        ................Sorry for off topic.......
        I think these are images taken before the armistice. Consequently I do not think personnel loyal to the alliance with the Germans. This preliminary observation is necessary because the national vulgate has always forget that there were also cases of this kind almost everywhere. Immediately before the armistice, Lero Island was garrisoned by a total force of 8,320 Italian soldiers, of which about 75% belonged to the Royal Navy. The commander of the Italian maritime defense and naval base was the Rear Admiral Luigi Mascherpa (later convicted by the Special Court and shot on May 24, 1944 in Parma - postumhously gold medal for military valor). The Navy took part in the defense of the island with about 6,000 men assigned to the various pieces of artillery at the command of some Army officers, led by the Sea Front Command (FAM) in coordination with the Antiaircraft Territorial Defense Command (DICAT) based in Mount Patella and led by the frigate captain Virgilio Spigai, co of the various groups of anti-ship and anti-aircraft batteries of the island. On the island's reliefs, in fact, some artillery batteries were placed, suitable both to the anti-ship and anti-aircraft fire, which were commanded, as I said previously, by officers of the Army and manned from Royal Navy personnel (blasters, gunners, electricians, etc. ), for a total of about fifty men each.

        The coastal defense consisted of:
        3 batteries 152 mm;
        2 batteries 120 mm;
        4 batteries 102 mm;
        1 battery 90 mm;
        14 batteries 76 mm.

        The antiaircraft defense was provided by artillery pieces and heavy MG:
        14/102 mm;
        6/90 mm;
        38/76 mm;
        3 machine guns 37 mm;
        15 machine guns 20 mm;
        31 machine guns 13.2 mm.

        In conclusion, regarding the swastika on the helmet, in my opinion, probably the individual initiative of a man particularly fond about the italian-german alliance or just an image for propaganda purposes.

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          #5
          Originally posted by enorepap View Post
          I think these are images taken before the armistice. Consequently I do not think personnel loyal to the alliance with the Germans. This preliminary observation is necessary because the national vulgate has always forget that there were also cases of this kind almost everywhere. Immediately before the armistice, Lero Island was garrisoned by a total force of 8,320 Italian soldiers, of which about 75% belonged to the Royal Navy. The commander of the Italian maritime defense and naval base was the Rear Admiral Luigi Mascherpa (later convicted by the Special Court and shot on May 24, 1944 in Parma - postumhously gold medal for military valor). The Navy took part in the defense of the island with about 6,000 men assigned to the various pieces of artillery at the command of some Army officers, led by the Sea Front Command (FAM) in coordination with the Antiaircraft Territorial Defense Command (DICAT) based in Mount Patella and led by the frigate captain Virgilio Spigai, co of the various groups of anti-ship and anti-aircraft batteries of the island. On the island's reliefs, in fact, some artillery batteries were placed, suitable both to the anti-ship and anti-aircraft fire, which were commanded, as I said previously, by officers of the Army and manned from Royal Navy personnel (blasters, gunners, electricians, etc. ), for a total of about fifty men each.

          The coastal defense consisted of:
          3 batteries 152 mm;
          2 batteries 120 mm;
          4 batteries 102 mm;
          1 battery 90 mm;
          14 batteries 76 mm.

          The antiaircraft defense was provided by artillery pieces and heavy MG:
          14/102 mm;
          6/90 mm;
          38/76 mm;
          3 machine guns 37 mm;
          15 machine guns 20 mm;
          31 machine guns 13.2 mm.

          In conclusion, regarding the swastika on the helmet, in my opinion, probably the individual initiative of a man particularly fond about the italian-german alliance or just an image for propaganda purposes.
          The date in LUCE archive (where these photos came from) is 1942

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            #6
            Originally posted by ILVEROMILITE View Post
            ................Sorry for off topic.......
            There are more photos from the same artillery training that show the particular sailor with the swastika painted on his helmet. I'll post them soon

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              #7
              Originally posted by kanister View Post
              First: I agree, Navy's Breda
              Last: Scotti 20mm.

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