cech rsi helmet

[marvolo59]

Hi everyone, i'm posting pictures of a friend's helmet who'd like to have more informations about it from some experts, including which kind of decal was on this, which unit could have used it, etc..
Thanks in advance

[marvolo59]

cech rsi helmet

Some more pictures

[flashider]

Do you have a close-up picture of the decals? From this pictures the eagle seems fake...

[marvolo59]

Here we are. Can you explain why do you think the eagle is fake, please?

[MarcoPennisi]

A Czech so-called M34 pattern helmet, the eagle is RSI Army but has been observed on RSI Air Force helemets as well. I'm puzzled by the size of the (once) three-color shield on the side.
Difficult to judge authenticity of the eagle from picture in post #1, if I may dare say.
MP

[flashider]

The design of the original eagles is different.

I saw, from the picture you provided before, that the eagle didn't had a color substrate as all WWII period decals have. That was, for me, a red alarm from distance.
This decal is made with modern devices.

[tankredi]

The design of the original eagles is different.

I saw, from the picture you provided before, that the eagle didn't had a color substrate as all WWII period decals have. That was, for me, a red alarm from distance.
This decal is made with modern devices.

What do you mean by "color substrate"?

[Paolo Marzetti]

I quote Marco Pennisi.PaoloM

[flashider]

What do you mean by "color substrate"?

Base color

[marvolo59]

Thank you guys for opinions!!

[MarcoPennisi]

The design of the original eagles is different.

I saw, from the picture you provided before, that the eagle didn't had a color substrate as all WWII period decals have. That was, for me, a red alarm from distance.
This decal is made with modern devices.

In other words : you mean that the eagle on this helmet is a design done in one color only , don't you?
MP

[flashider]

In other words : you mean that the eagle on this helmet is a design done in one color only , don't you?
MP

No....I mean that WWII period decals, german or Italian made for example, have always a color base. Under the black color you must find always a white base.

Modern devices print colors without a color base. Because there are no reasons to do it.

This not means that all the repro decals have this feature. But when you find this problem....It's very easy to recognize a fake.

[Paolo Marzetti]

PaoloM

[flashider]

Paolo .... I re-try to explain.

Original WWII period decals have always a base color.

If you scratch a german tricolor you will find the white under the black or under the red. If you scratch a german eagle you will find silver as base and sometimes also the white.

An example of what I mean is here:

https://gothicline.wordpress.com/mil...ry-2/enr-helm/

In the link I provided you can see an original RSI faded eagle. The black is printed on the white base.

On this czech helmet there is a decal printed with a modern printing machine, because the white is printed alone and the black too.

Do you understand what I mean?

[Paolo Marzetti]

....
On this czech helmet there is a decal printed with a modern printing machine, because the white is printed alone and the black too.

OK.PaoloM