Help with this hungarian atilla, please!!!

[Ironcrown]

Hello gents,
I've come recently into this very nice hungarian atilla.
At a first sight I tought that this is a hussar's "Tàrsasàgi atilla" from the Horty period.
But looking at the color, it's actually black and not dark blue as it should be.
I've checked on the books I have like the very good one from dr. Tòth Làszlò, but didn't find anything similar...
One shoulder board should mean a mounted corps...
But wich one exactly? And am I right thinking it's military?
Maybe is this for a civilian official? Railroad? Police?

Please help me!!!

[Ironcrown]

The shoulder board is on the right shoulder instead of on the left one as it usually is.
I have been told that it's because the owner was probably left handed

[Ironcrown]

[Ironcrown]

On the lining there are some faint markings from a theatre costumes warehouse in Budapest.

Any idea about this atilla will be very much appreciated

[Dr Peter P.]

Black is for veterinary, isn't it?

[Ironcrown]

Thanks for your reply!

I've checked better on the books. Yes, vetrinaries, as also many other officers (doctors, pharmacists, military judges, teachers, engineers, administration and so on) had black atillas!
But as far as I understand the hungarian language, all had velvet cuffs and/or collar of various colors, depending on the branch. Doctors and pharmacists had all black tunics, but this atilla has no velvet at all!
Also, if it's for a doctor or veterinary, why one shoulder board only?
Maybe it's because the officer was attached to a mounted unit?

[eindecker2]

going off memory for this one - this is a WWI - to pre WWI Honved tunic - the tradition of the left to rign side chord (as I was told) was a mess as it depended on the time it was made. The tradition as I was told was that the right was for mounted artillery and the left for mounted troops.

[Ironcrown]

Thanks!
But weren't the bullion olive buttons and the german style breast knots used in Horty period?
I always tought that in the austrian empire these kinds of uniforms were different in these features.

[Dr Peter P.]

Since it is a theatre piece, I think anything could happened during the 6-7 decades...

[Ironcrown]

No, the tunic has not been modified, I am pretty sure of this. The only changes that I can see are the warehouse stamps and the removal of the tailor's label

[Ironcrown]

This tunic has born as it is, has not been modified. I've been collecting for quite long time to be certain of that, believe me! There are no traces of previous sewings or other modifications. I've checked carefully

The configuration is strange, but I am sure that we will be able to sort out wich branch of the Army used this kind of atilla
The colored chords and rosettes are fully correct for both Pre and post WW1 periods. Initially it distinguished the Honvèd from the common Army, then it was retained for the Horty's army.
The bullion olive buttons were used in the imperial army for the generals only, and same is for the breast knots configuration. But they were all regularly used after the war for these "tàrsasàgi atilla" from 2nd Lt onwards.
That's why I am pretty sure the tunic was made in '20-'30s... But for who?

The fact that it previously belonged to a costumes house doesn't necessarily mean that it has been reworked! In past these firms bought large amounts of original uniforms and kept them in storage. Sometime they were never used.

[Ironcrown]

I have been contacted by a PM.
The atilla has been identified as a 1931M, a later tunic variation that semplified the earlier 1926M atilla. Totally black uniform was for doctors, the single shoulder board probably indicates that the officer was attached to a mounted unit.
That the officer was a doctor can be confirmed also by the fact that there are no medal loops at all on the atilla. This would be strange for a captain in a combat unit, but it's rather normal for a doctor. Probably this officer entered into the hungarian army after WW1, so he didn't earn any decoration by the time he ordered this atilla from a tailor.