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    #91
    rivet detail.
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      #92
      the last, inside rivet detail
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        #93
        Sand camo

        Originally posted by Paolo Marzetti View Post
        An interesting photo of the time showing an Engr Sapper with M.33 camo
        helmet obtained by sand of the place glued on. Cheers, PaoloM
        Greetings: The picture shows an Engr sapper with sand applied camo to his helmet. I've owned this M33 helmet with a sand camo for many years. Would it be the same style and technique used in North Africa as shown in the picture. Thank you and all comments and opinions are appreciated.
        Best Regards
        Zeke
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          #94
          M33 sand camo

          Close up of the air vents and camo.
          Regards
          Zeke
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            #95
            @Gustavo: your helmet looks good.I've just seen in the past such a type of rivet applied on.I can think to a German field repair or something like that.
            I found that type of rivet on a German FJ steel helmet.
            @Zeke: your helmet too looks good:1st type of domed vent rivets and glued on
            tan paint. The oxydation of the years gives the paint a dark shade.However this type of camo makes me think more to the Spanish Civil War(reddish matt brown) than to the North African theatre(yellowish smooth brown).
            Cheers, PaoloM

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              #96
              [QUOTE=Paolo Marzetti;2625863]@Gustavo: your helmet looks good.I've just seen in the past such a type of rivet applied on.I can think to a German field repair or something like that.
              I found that type of rivet on a German FJ steel helmet.


              Thank you for your inputs Paolo
              The very best regards
              Gustavo

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                #97
                Nice piece Inno! Now everybody can see the result of a direct shot on a M.33!
                If the owner was inside, he has not returned home!
                Ciao, PaoloM


                The photos have been deleted by the member. PaoloM
                Last edited by Paolo Marzetti; 08-24-2008, 03:08 AM.

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                  #98
                  I think the soldier was inside, there are many traces of blood on the liner.
                  You can see the trace of blood, in the right part of the helmet.

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                    #99
                    Dear all,

                    This thread started with the kaki helmet cover for the M33. I own myself one also, marked with Magazzino Centrale Militare at Firenze (not Florence in this case), the R.C. stamp and it is a size 57.
                    There is a lot of controversy on these pieces as discussed earlier, but as I am just moved I went again through my books and propaganda magazines to check if they are all ok after moving and found pics of the cover (improvised version or not?) in use, so I thought I will share them with you.

                    The first picture is from Passo Romano N.12. 15 Aprile XXI (1943)



                    Text: Nostri pezzi anticarro in postazione sul fronte della Tunisia

                    Second picture is from Tempo (Edizione Italiana) N.182 19-26 Novembre 1942 (XXI)



                    Un nostre pezzo in postazione sul fronte orientale. Il puntatore, con l’occhio fisso sui congegni, aggiusta il tiro sull’obiettivo, mentre il capo pezzo si prepara a manovrare la leva di sparo dell’otturatore. L’obiettivo del tiro e rappresentato da un’importante posizione strategica net settore del Don, posizione che le truppe italane si avviano a prendere d’assalto.

                    On Italian helmets I have myself an Modello 1916 (refurbished in Grigio Verde but retaining the original chinstrap and inner helmet) of the P.A.A. an M33 in Grigio Verde, an M33 with brownish camo, and an M33 with yellow sand, brown and grey-blue camo (this one has a metal clip to hold an insignia on the front). Last 2 believed to be Spanish use.

                    Greetings,

                    Sparviero

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                      Thanks Sparviero, but the covers shown are not the same as the khaki ones,
                      dealt at the begginning of this thread. Royal San Marco Marines had their own
                      'grey' covers with single khaki strap all around, while Alpine troops Arty sometimes used in the East campaigns camo covers made on the field by pieces of M.29 camo shelter half, sometimes worn on the camo side, and sometimes on the reverse reddish side, as on the case of the second posted pic. Nice examples however. We'll deal with the Italian camo covers and nets later.In the Spanish civil war the Italians sometimes used camo helmets with
                      different types of paints.
                      Thanks, PaoloM

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                        @Paolo Marzetti; well noted. It was a small change I found some special pics, but posted them anyway.

                        Greetings,

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                          This is without question a North African camo.... I have it's sister which was sent home by a member of the 1st ID.

                          Originally posted by mandy333 View Post
                          Greetings: The picture shows an Engr sapper with sand applied camo to his helmet. I've owned this M33 helmet with a sand camo for many years. Would it be the same style and technique used in North Africa as shown in the picture. Thank you and all comments and opinions are appreciated.
                          Best Regards
                          Zeke

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                            Italian M.33 cutout 'telephone talker'R.Navy. (Courtesy R.C.S)
                            Bye,PaoloM
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                              NICE !!
                              Phil

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                                Let's stay in the navy

                                The Regia Marina again with this helmet, which is today one of the very few survivors from my early collection : I got this one something like 25 years ago now. At that time, I was looking for an italian helmet and grabbed the very first one that popped out ; despite the fact that I remember being a bit sorry it wasn't an army (black stenciled) one... But well, for what would make today around 10 € (it was in french Francs then), I guess one can forget about being too picky from time to time !

                                It came from the local woodwork here in Nice (Nizza, as the Italians used to call the town), actually not very far from the harbour. It appears that the paint that was used for the stencil was brushed and not sprayed like it's most often the case ; but I guess the eminent specialists here will give their feelings about this helmet, it will be greatly appreciated.

                                Last edited by Edelweiss; 03-18-2009, 06:36 PM.

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