kradmantel

[Mike TM]

Hello, is a WWII period one or post war?

Thanks in advanced
Mike

[Mike TM]

Other pic

[NickG]

These usually have the collar in cloth material....(bottle green/field gray)
not like this...(all rubber)

[olpan]

This example is the first type made, pre war and the predecessor to the field grey model, some interior pics would also be good.

[Mike TM]

Hello, I have this interior pic.

regards
Mike

[NickG]

Never encountered an all rubber one...neat if it is a very early type...The interior sure looks good for it to be period...
The non woolen collar got me doubting it initially.

[NickG]

This example is the first type made, pre war and the predecessor to the field grey model, some interior pics would also be good.

Here is an early image...hard to tell if the collar is rubber or wool....

[Mike TM]

I have found this pic. It seem to be a not wool collar.

regards
Mike

[NickG]

Good stuff! yes it's "Gummi" for sure! I learned something new today!
Bike appears to be an early Zundapp K800. Wunderbar!

[olpan]

Definitely original early type, 1934, I have seen one of these black kradmatels in person, I have found a reference to the collar material being the same as the coat but are still looking for more info which I have previously read regarding the black colour. If you scroll down on the page of the link I have provided you will see the info regarding material on collar under the sub heading "history note" http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30100753

[NickG]

Definitely original early type, 1934, I have seen one of these black kradmatels in person, I have found a reference to the collar material being the same as the coat but are still looking for more info which I have previously read regarding the black colour. If you scroll down on the page of the link I have provided you will see the info regarding material on collar under the sub heading "history note" http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30100753

Indeed! Short lifespan...no wonder it's not a well recognized variant!

"When first introduced in 1934 the Kradmantel's collar was made of the same rubberised fabric as the body,
but from 1935 was made of dark green cloth, changing to field-grey uniform cloth in 1940."
IWM's explanation!

[olpan]

Indeed! Short lifespan...no wonder it's not a well recognized variant!

"When first introduced in 1934 the Kradmantel's collar was made of the same rubberised fabric as the body,
but from 1935 was made of dark green cloth, changing to field-grey uniform cloth in 1940."
IWM's explanation!

Exactly and who would have thought in a black colour as well. Apart from the one I have personally seen, I only found out about the different types due to a lot of research , I also discovered there is not a lot of info out there on these coats.