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    DAK Tunic original or fake?

    Hi guys I need your help! is this tunic an original or a fake? Is on this tunic one piece original? Shoulder boards? I trust in you! Informations please! Thanks and best regards!
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    #2
    I'm not sure what the base jacket is but the tunic is not what it is pretending to be (Heer NCO). The eagle, tabs and straps are fake.

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      #3
      thanks for informations! perhaps an italy tinica? or a totally fake ?

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        #4
        renactor tunic

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          #5
          Base jacket appears to be British KD in Aertex material of WW2 vintage I believe, which was converted post war with fake insignia,
          including fake shoulderstraps....

          Had it been original insignia it could have been an exciting find, as the DAK did use modified Commonwealth uniforms
          in that theatre due to shortages!
          Last edited by NickG; 02-28-2016, 05:19 PM.

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            #6
            Complete garbage, not even close.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Tim OK View Post
              Complete garbage, not even close.
              Its not complete garbage and not supposed to be close even...It is real and war time Commonwealth issue, made with desirable Aertex material (British or Indian)



              BUT pimped up with bad insignia to look like DAK...
              These came in numerous styles but most with pleated chest and unpleated skirt pockets, later ones lacked pleats all together...
              Here 2 examples...(lifted from the web)
              The lighter shirt version had vertical button slits, 2 cuff buttons with slit, and the heavier tunic version had horizontal button slits (like the fake DAK),
              but other than that same construction.
              Attached Files
              Last edited by NickG; 02-29-2016, 01:00 PM.

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                #8
                There are tons of pictures of Germans wearing captured Brit uniform parts . With the fall of Tobruk the German's came into a great deal of shirts, jackets, trousers, socks, boots, etc...
                and they pressed them all into service. As we are all aware the German supply lines were tenuous at best...
                Here is a Luftwaffe captured version but hard to tell if its real or assembled like this...Another KD in Aertex with LW breast eagle and LW tropical buttons...

                All I am saying is that if you encounter British war time tropical uniforms with German insignia don't immediately discount it...The one that started the thread has fake insignia,
                so most likely bad but maybe the tresse is an original real application and the rest was restored over ghosts of real (breast) insignia (so denazified).

                You just never know is my message!
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                Last edited by NickG; 02-29-2016, 01:21 PM.

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                  #9
                  Hi Nick

                  It is intended to fool sombody. & i don't want to start another new breed of fakes

                  However you raise an interesting subject. Agree the DAK did capture and use vast amounts of Allied clothing after the fall of Tobruk. But do not recall seeing a DAK soldat wearing an Allied tunic with sewn tropical German insignia ? The original issued tunics & caps seem to be the two items that the DAK solders continued to wear, while just about everything else used could be Allied made, pants, boots, socks etc.
                  Then the question, how would the DAK solders get German tropical insignia to put on the Allied tunics ? In Afrika tropical insignia was even harder to get than a tropical tunic or cap especially in 1942. I could see an Allied jacket with German Continental insignia being put togeher and used by a member of the DAK if he had lost his jacket, but have not seen one yet ? Anyone ?

                  This reminds me somewhat of the Italian & South African piths being souped-up post war with German eagles & shields to appear as German used during the war. (not the captured Dutch made for SA helmets which are legit) An Allied jacket with German tropical insignia would have to have real solid provenance or it would always have doubts, just like those helmets

                  Heia Safari !
                  Tim
                  Last edited by Tim O'Keefe; 03-01-2016, 06:32 AM.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tim OK View Post
                    Hi Nick

                    It is intended to fool sombody. & i don't want to start another new breed of fakes
                    Yes most likely intended to fool but Allied tropical gear with DAK insignia is a fact. In Crete and in Africa...It happened and well documented.
                    This one created like this or stripped (besides tresse) and restored with bad insignia...but most likely the former scenario, not the latter...
                    Agreed! Just wanted to state "never say never" when such combinations are found...

                    Originally posted by Tim OK View Post
                    An Allied jacket with German tropical insignia would have to have real solid provenance or it would always have doubts, just like those helmets

                    Heia Safari !
                    Tim
                    Yes it happened! Just like the Polo piths...but solid provenance is indeed the only way to go on such mixes to stand a chance! AGREED!
                    Regarding your question: But I do not recall seeing a DAK soldat wearing an Allied tunic with sewn tropical German insignia ?

                    Here an example: a DAK soldier wearing a captured British brown wool Battledress blouse with added continental breast eagle and added tropical collar litzen & added German rank insignia, including a chevron! In the original picture you can see the seams above the chest pockets a lot clearer to make out that we are viewing a captured and converted UK Battle Dress jacket. (the scan is a little grainy...)
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                    Last edited by NickG; 03-01-2016, 01:16 PM.

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                      #11
                      Hello,

                      All of the insignia is reproduction. It was meant to fool somebody.

                      Fred

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                        #12
                        Hi guys thanks very much for informations. I have payed 50,- Euro for the tunic. That is okay! I get it from an old man, who get it 30 years ago. He says: He get it from an africa fighter and it original. Perhaps have this africa fighter new insignia after the war???? But 50,- Euro is okay I am think! Thanks and best regards

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