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    #16
    Great looking tunic! The fact that it's still got it's a Schutzen boards is awesome. The DKIG are seen all over the place on tunics, it's obviously where he wanted it. I am surprised at the way the award was put on there... Matt

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      #17
      Great tunic!

      Wish I had the money for something like this right now, then it wouldn't make it to the estand
      Eventhough I feel it won't anyway

      ANd the DK loops where put on like that from time to time, one can see it pictures.

      Cheers

      Mads

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        #18
        I don't even remember if I have ever seen a named tunic of such a highly awarded combat officer for sale wow fantastic tunic

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          #19
          Great tunic!

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            #20
            Been quite a while since I have seen a named tunic to a highly decorated guy like this. You just don't seem to see many named TR tunics these days. If you do have to put a asking price on it I would put what you think is top dollar and go from there. Some body will offer you a fair price I'm sure. If not what you think it's worth bring it to this years SOS and trade it for everything you want.

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              #21
              Lovely tunic, Kenny!

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                #22
                Thanks for all the great comments guys , I thought you would like the Schutzen straps Matt I genuinely don't know how to value this tunic , I've been told some one who owns a Knights Cross with oakleaves would be the person to sell it too, also that it would be worth the same as a leading Third Reich personality tunic, because he was so highly decorated.

                I agree with Blitzkrieg the best way to go would be to ask for top dollar and go from there, but I can't even work out what top dollar would be , any ideas guys what top dollar price to ask for a starting price? I'm in no rush to sell the tunic, so starting high could be the best way to go.

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                  #23
                  Here's another 'Klotz' stamped tag...I don't know who owns the pic.
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                    #24
                    That's great John, amazing to see these things together, after all these years, on a side note, I wonder if Mr Klotz can be researched , he sure was a great tailor.

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                      #25
                      I wonder if this guy is any relation!?...http://klotz-men.com/wp/uber-uns/modell-katalog-2012/
                      He is situated in Mömlingen, Bavaria, which ain't exactly close to Berlin...but who knows.
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                      Last edited by J C Gray; 11-15-2015, 06:49 AM.

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                        #26
                        There is also a Tailor in Lower Saxony called 'Beate Klotz Schneiderei'.

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                          #27
                          Nice tunic! However I think that the name Hans was added. The letters A and N are totally different the the ones used in his family name.
                          Any pictures found of him wearing this tunic?

                          Regards,
                          Rob.

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                            #28
                            Beautiful tunic !

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                              #29
                              Please forgive my ignorance, my focus usually lies within the political/para-military category, but could someone please explain the purpose of the octagon below the right-upper pocket (left when looking at the picture)? I understand it'd be the attachment mechanism for an DK, but wouldn't two loops be sufficient?
                              Thank you.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by codytrcollector View Post
                                Please forgive my ignorance, my focus usually lies within the political/para-military category, but could someone please explain the purpose of the octagon below the right-upper pocket (left when looking at the picture)? I understand it'd be the attachment mechanism for an DK, but wouldn't two loops be sufficient?
                                Thank you.
                                the cloth version

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