No stamp, with watch fob pocket and high back cut. Any ideas on origins, please? Same colour like early war fatigues, but this is a light material, not HBT.
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flying this up the flagpole again...any target recognition? ... mods?Comment
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These are not part of the drillich uniform per se, but rather were intended to be worn under the trousers in cold weather and more so worn around the barracks area for cleaning and similar duty like the fatigues. As far as I know these would date to WWI (or even before) and into the Reichswehr period. I do not know when they quit producing these but I think it was well before the mid 1930s.Comment
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What a distinctly placed and generous comment, phild, thank you very much.
like fatigues for 'soft work' rather than hbt for heavy stuff. Or else long johns...Are there any references to this item that you know of, either in manual or photograph?
Any tips in this direction from the mods of this section of Waf?Comment
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Thank you. The references that I have found are all from the Imperial and Weimar period. I know that Krauss's books (on the above subjects) addresses this item. It can be a challenge to distinguish these from the Drillich HBT trousers in period photos, but easy to do in person or in good collector photos as the ones that you submitted.Originally posted by corporalSteiner View Post
I have see a good many photos from the Imperial period and the 1920s of these being worn and it is no question that these are the type in the photos.
Try the Imperial forum area and see if you can find photos posted or ask for some.Comment
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Ok, phild, thank you for these pointers. I wonder if there was a jacket made in the same cloth....let me try and find the pics...best regards!Comment
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Check out the Imperial uniform section on Collectors Guild site. He has a couple of these for sale that are very similar. I did not read his description so I can not vouch for it.
The example is slightly different from the type that I am most familiar with in that your's has a slash watch pocket instead of a patch watch pocket......otherwise they are the same....but missing the cuff ties which is common.
These are called "Garrison Trousers". As far as I know there was not matching jacket/tunic for these. I have seen them in period photos worn with a shirt, feldgrau tunic (rarely) and with the off-white, but sometimes dyed feldgrau hbt drillich jacket.
My best understanding of these is this: When the soldiers were in the barracks or the Kasern area, especially off-duty, they generally would not be lounging or performing light work assignments wearing their field uniform. These trousers were the alternative along with sometimes the drillich uniform. This would be sort of like wearing "sweat" pants today......Comment
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I see, phild, yes. These saved their woollen breeches from wear, then. Fascinating detail and excellently told! Shall see Guilds reference items. Nicely sketched out again, thanks very much!Comment
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