Late war 1945 M44 tunic

[Glenn McInnes]

A few more.






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[Glenn McInnes]

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[OSS]

I never tire of gazing at these. (Glenn's)

[hcliffe]

Good comments and insight everyone, thanks for sharing. Especially the pics of your Glenn. Yes the sewing of these tabs is definitely different from your examples. Just curious if any of the tunic you showed were '45 dated?

[Glenn McInnes]

Yes the sewing of these tabs is definitely different from your examples. Just curious if any of the tunic you showed were '45 dated?

That's the thing,every time I see one with these type collar tabs applied they are always sewn in a amateur way.


Both tunics in post #16 are 45 dates.






Glenn

[Johnny R]

Not speaking about the jacket that started the thread, but I am not 100% convinced that the earlier tabs were not used at the end of the War in some cases. I have 1945 dated jacket and the dark green tabs are just haphazardly sewn on using the same thread as the eagle.

[hcliffe]

Thanks Glenn. I am okay if the insignia is all post war applied. I was wanting the jacket due to its variation from other M44's, and I am happy with it. But regarding the collar tab application, it doesn't seem like it would have taken much more effort for someone to sew the tabs on like the ones you show. Of course I know little about sewing so I could be all wrong on that.

[Glenn McInnes]

But regarding the collar tab application, it doesn't seem like it would have taken much more effort for someone to sew the tabs on like the ones you show. Of course I know little about sewing so I could be all wrong on that.

I think it would be difficult especially if they had no clue as to what collar tabs were usually used on these and how to fold and sew them correctly and could they match the thread used in some of the jackets original manufacture....I think in most cases (not all) it is not tunic collectors restoring them.

I would also think GI's entering German clothing factories in 1945 would have encountered many of these M-44's in various stages of manufacture. I know I have seen several that were brought home with no insignia ever applied and a few with just the eagles applied with no collar tabs ever being sewn..

So when I see these using early collar tabs,not folded and applied as I would expect to see them,I get nervous.




Best regards
Glenn

[hcliffe]

Good points as usual Glenn, thanks for the input. This may have been one that had no tabs at wars end.

[Daniel.S]

I would not have a problem with these type collar tabs being used on a M-44 but I have yet to see a M-44 using them which I would consider "textbook" factory folding,sewing and positioning on the collar.I wonder why that is??

When compared to examples that are without question period sewn the difference is obvious.

See attached tunics from several different makers.




Glenn

Glenn.

The tabs on the tunic that started this thread....

What about M43 tunics, have you seen any of those tabs on M43 tunics that you consider original sewn?

//Daniel.

[Glenn McInnes]

What about M43 tunics, have you seen any of those tabs on M43 tunics that you consider original sewn?

//Daniel.

Hello Daniel,

Not that I recall (I may have) but I am certain they would have been used if that was all they had at the time of manufacture.

Interesting in that I have seen several late M-43's and late Panzer wrappers (44 dates) using earlier type eagles that were without question the original factory sewing but I have never seen a M-44 using an early pattern eagle. Certainly on my wants list if I can ever find one as I like variations.





Regards
Glenn

[Daniel.S]

Hello Daniel,

Not that I recall (I may have) but I am certain they would have been used if that was all they had at the time of manufacture.

Interesting in that I have seen several late M-43's and late Panzer wrappers (44 dates) using earlier type eagles that were without question the original factory sewing but I have never seen a M-44 using an early pattern eagle. Certainly on my wants list if I can ever find one as I like variations.





Regards
Glenn

Thanks Glenn.

Interesting, ill get back to you.

//Daniel.

[CWP]

Pre-1938 branch piped Litzen on an M43 tunic would be very difficult for me to accept as factory applied.

[Daniel.S]

Pre-1938 branch piped Litzen on an M43 tunic would be very difficult for me to accept as factory applied.

yes, but we are not speaking about those.

[Glenn McInnes]

yes, but we are not speaking about those.

Would you have a M-44 with early eagle,original factory sewing...










Glenn