Eagle

[Laurence Strong]

Thoughts on this one would be appreciated. Not mine so there are no other piccies.



Cheers
Larry

[Fred Green]

Hello,

A very nice Judicial eagle! There was a guy on one of the facebook Buy, Sell, Trade pages asking about this exact same eagle. He is under some delusional idea that it is a pre 1934 Heer eagle or some other nonsense.

Fred

[afrikasandman]

very nice bird! Matt

[Laurence Strong]

Hi Guys.
Thanks for the replies

Hello,

A very nice Judicial eagle! There was a guy on one of the facebook Buy, Sell, Trade pages asking about this exact same eagle. He is under some delusional idea that it is a pre 1934 Heer eagle or some other nonsense.

Fred

Fred I think it is one and the same. Bit of a discussion going on on AHF.


http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=209280

very nice bird! Matt

Hello Matt.


Thanks for the response


I have no bone in this, and am definitely not an expert. Just a curiosity to see what the WAF membership thought of the eagle.

Any other thoughts or comments?


Sincerely
Larry

[Fred Green]

Hello,

I posted on the Facebook page originally that this was a judicial eagle for a lower level judge, black robe wearing type. This guy wanted proof ,pictures, a written letter from the manufacturer and was as boneheaded there as he was on the Axis History Forum. I gave up.

I will state again that it is a very nice high quality bullion judicial eagle for a lower level magistrate. If the guy would like any more information he should collect and handle cloth insignia for a few years.

Fred

[RonR]

Another Judicial eagle...

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[Fred Green]

Hello Ron,

I posted this picture of your eagle on the Facebook forum for the guy and he was not satisfied because it wasn't exactly like his. Thanks.

Fred

[Fullmetalmonkey]

Well hi everyone... I'm the delusional Bullhead that owns this patch....for the record, I never thought it was a pre-34 Heer, I thought it was pre 34 political, as snyders had said
, but someone in the Facebook forum insisted it was the same as a photo he posted...of a Heer unit leader in 34..... I spent a bit of bandwidth trying to disprove his "I know I'm right.. my blurry pic is proof".

Lawrence, I want to thank you for looking into this on a forum I hadn't known about, in a very unbiased way.

Ron, thanks for finding something close, but unfortunately mine was slightly different. The eagle has a red eye or tongue, a crisscross pattern on the chest, plus wrist wraps.

Fred. I truly thank you for you opinion and all your time helping people identify things... Truly... I, in no way, mean to challenge your knowledge, in fact you are saying exactly what I have been seeing repeated over and over....... But I have to ask.... A long time ago you came into that knowledge? Where did it come from? A person? A book? Compiled from seeing and observing many tunics, robes, patches, etc? The reason I ask is this.... How does anyone know those bits of info I see all over the web are accurate? It's very possible that they are just repeating the same bad information that was given long ago... So how do we, critical thinkers and history/collectible detectives, prove that these infos are correct? We ask for pictures OR references in books OR any little shred of info that can corroborate and substantiate the claims so that we don't try to sell something saying "this guy says so",....

The reason I'm being so strong willed about this is that most responses have been.... "it's fake, give it up" with no reasoning behind their assertion. Or... It's a "*blank*" with, again, no reasoning behind their assertion. It's my only collection piece, I am perfectly willing to believe that it's a fake, but I have seen plenty of evidence that suggests it's real, and not one valid bit suggesting it's fake, so rather than just give up and toss it off, I want to actually find out what I have and when it was made.

There are a bunch of better pics now posted on the axis history forum for more detail.

Now that all of that is behind us..... Here's a link to another thread with what I consider the exact same bird as mine

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=42330

Red tongue is the key.... Not many around...

So.. If this is indeed a judicial robe breast patch... Any idea what year? Any idea why it has the red and others don't? Has anyone ever actually seen a picture of a judge with one of these or a reference in a book to one with red (I know most pics are B&W, not very likely)

[all1knew]

I guess the question to ask is, do all Judicial eagles have to have a red tongue?

William Kramer

[RonR]

Hello Ron,

I posted this picture of your eagle on the Facebook forum for the guy and he was not satisfied because it wasn't exactly like his. Thanks.

Fred

Fred,

Just now saw this response to the eagle now.

Must have missed it.

Normally I prefer to let the item speak for itself, however, this one was included in a deceased Veteran's group acquired June 17, 2010.

Here is the group (all of the items have been posted and deemed "good")



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[RonR]

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[Kengir]

That second eagle sure has a blocky head, Ron!

-Jeremy

[Ron Weinand]

Hand finished IMO