Opinions heer winter mantel

[brabander]

What do you think about this heer winter mantell my feelings ar good.

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[CWP]

I believe this coat has been modified for civilian wear. I suspect that it originally was greatcoat length and had a wool collar, either Feldgrau or Luftwaffe blue. It has been shortened, the collar redone and knit cuffs added.

[brabander]

mm bad news for me so i can not use it for a winter display are you sure of this,because i see many different styles of winter coats.

[CWP]

I'm not sure, it is just my opinion but I believe it to be true. The markings, overall cut, pockets and pocket closures are typical for the standard animal fur overcoat with wool collar and I feel fairly certain it has been modified.

[phild]

I think that the coat is fine and un-modified. This is a different type or variation to the longer coats mentioned above. I have seen coats like yours before in both period photos and in person.

The collar is un-touched and this can be seen from the photots of the underside . All original stitching, paper button and closure tab....it is just correct.

The length is also fine. I would bet that if you carefully checked the hem edge where the vertical seams meet the hem, you will find re-enforcing stitches on each of the seams at the hem. After the the winter of 41-42 these coats started being produced in this length for more moble wear as the long guard type coats were too difficult to move in.

I know that there was a book done recently on winter clothing that included a lot about these coats. I do not have the book, but I would say that there were dozens of slight varitions of sheepskin coats worn and I have seen photos of them shorter than this one being worn.

[brabander]

I think that the coat is fine and un-modified. This is a different type or variation to the longer coats mentioned above. I have seen coats like yours before in both period photos and in person.

The collar is un-touched and this can be seen from the photots of the underside . All original stitching, paper button and closure tab....it is just correct.

The length is also fine. I would bet that if you carefully checked the hem edge where the vertical seams meet the hem, you will find re-enforcing stitches on each of the seams at the hem. After the the winter of 41-42 these coats started being produced in this length for more moble wear as the long guard type coats were too difficult to move in.

I know that there was a book done recently on winter clothing that included a lot about these coats. I do not have the book, but I would say that there were dozens of slight varitions of sheepskin coats worn and I have seen photos of them shorter than this one being worn.

Thank you i must say i am not a expert on winter clothing but i need this coat for a nice ostfront display or mabey a ardennes display so u think i can use this thing without problems?It comes with a kriegsmarine coat wich i have also place on the forum for opinions.I think it is Always good to check it with fellow collectors.

[phild]

Thank you i must say i am not a expert on winter clothing but i need this coat for a nice ostfront display or mabey a ardennes display so u think i can use this thing without problems?It comes with a kriegsmarine coat wich i have also place on the forum for opinions.I think it is Always good to check it with fellow collectors.

It is had to say 100% on the length being as it left the factory...Chris may be right....but check how the vertical seams end on the hem. It has to be realized that these were modified often by the wearer.....more so if not most always if the wearer was an officer or even an NCO and the coat was not on the "books" to him.

The wrist "bands" are unusual but they look old and correct....they may have been added, but I think wartime....the SS skin anorak had this type wristlets for instance.

I know that a lot of these were worn this length during the war.....some may have been cut, but IMO it would be more correct for an officer or NCO.

[brabander]

So this mantel is used by a officer or nco and could even be modified in the field ?

[brabander]

If they make this thing in wartime short i understand that because in combat it is easier in use .

[phild]

So this mantel is used by a officer or nco and could even be modified in the field ?

Yes to both questions. This one may have been shortened by the wearer....more likley if the wearer was higher rank and owned the coat. You see a high % of officers wearing such sheepskin coats on both fronts during the war and a lot of them can be see to be about mid-thigh to knee length.

[brabander]

Thank you my feelings about this coat are good and i can make a nice display from it.
a real easfront fighter .

[brabander]

I recieved the coat have to sAY 100% oke verry verry nice and as far i can see this is the Original size of the coat


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