Black Panzer wrapper

[teka]

Hello all,

I would greatly appreciate some comments on this wrap. I've got a good feeling but I'm far to be a specialist. The stamps are different from the Holz & Binkowski exemplar posted by member Frozzer on this forum. Is this a red flag? Does the markings rule applies for wraps like it does for example for Berolina side caps? I will let the pictures do the talk.

Thank you in advance
Cheers
Teka

[Johnny R]

Is the eagle wool base navy blue? If it is blue it would be most likely for a Navy Official.

[NickG]

Is the eagle wool base navy blue? If it is blue it would be most likely for a Navy Official.

I agree KM Admin breast eagle...
I am not a wrapper expert but the bolt cloth (bulk) supplier ink stamp for the cloth maker is an interesting detail and could make it more believable to me ...
or are fakers even adding those as well now?

[LuckyStrike23]

The basic jacket as well as the skull is original

[phild]

The basic jacket as well as the skull is original

I agree and am without any doubt about that. I am less convinced that any of the insignia is wartime applied, although I think that it is all original with the possible exception of the boards??

[derka]

http://uniformsandtraditions.com/uni...=883&nggpage=2

logo 9/10

[teka]

wow thank you Derka (and all of you so far)!

[Frozzer]

Good one with replaced eagle

interesting is that Mine wrap has logo inside one sleve too

[teka]

nice !

Any comments on the tabs? Are they ok?

I also attach a better shot of the boards for more reviews.

Cheers!

[Frozzer]

please post photo of schoulder without schoulderboards. Photo from inside could be helpfull too.

I think that H&B wraps had boards sewn into arms. Maybe it is uprgaded to officer.

[B. N. Singer]

The example shown in post #8 is an Original “HOLZ & BINKOWSKI” wraparound.

B. N. Singer

[teka]

Hello Mr Singer,

do you mean that you entertain concerns about the one I posted? Please develop!

Best Regards
Teka

[B. N. Singer]

Hello Mr Singer,

do you mean that you entertain concerns about the one I posted? Please develop!

Best Regards
Teka

Without intending to elaborate, yes Sir from the pictures presented, I could entertain doubts.
With regards,
B. N. Singer

[teka]

so far the negative points I can see are the following:

- H&B stamps are different than the ones posted by frozzer
- weird belt hooks tabs
- double stitching on the collar tabs
- Awaiting picture of the shoulder boards area to see if it is a "promoted" wrapper

For the rest I can only welcome comments on particulars and oddities.

Best Regards
Teka

[Frozzer]

Signature from another one H&B wrap to compare. This wrap is in collection of member from our forum.