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    Nice set of unworn Panzer trousers

    Found this nice set of unworn Panzer trousers. Comments welcome gents.

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            I'm not really not feeling good that these are original. I don't focus on late war PZ material so I can not say 100%, but these have a number of small details that bother me.

            You should certainly get more opinions.

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              Not sure what you guys are seeing,but they look perfectly original to me.








              Glenn
              "A Man's Got to Know His Limitations"

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                Originally posted by Glenn McInnes View Post
                Not sure what you guys are seeing,but they look perfectly original to me.








                Glenn
                markings and manufacturer are not in my "zone of comfort".
                derka

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                  Originally posted by derka View Post
                  markings and manufacturer are not in my "zone of comfort".
                  derka




                  Difference of opinion I guess.







                  Regards,
                  Glenn
                  "A Man's Got to Know His Limitations"

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                    I agree...

                    the marking are not properly those I would see on the original ones...

                    Cheers!

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                      Originally posted by Glenn McInnes View Post
                      Not sure what you guys are seeing,but they look perfectly original to me.








                      Glenn
                      Thats also my opionion. I see no problems with the R.Betr.Nr. markings. Based on the provides pics I think

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                        Originally posted by Glenn McInnes View Post
                        Not sure what you guys are seeing,but they look perfectly original to me.


                        Glenn
                        If I touched them in person I may feel completely different. The sewing and thread looks very good. The stampings (content not font) and the black facing material bother me the most.....but nothing about the black wool or the lining material sell me on these based on the photos.

                        They may be 100% good...as I said the late war PZ is hard for me to verify in photos.

                        I also keep in mind that PZ uniforms (all types of items) particulary trousers have been faked to very high standards for a good while.

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                          Originally posted by phild View Post
                          ...I also keep in mind that PZ uniforms (all types of items) particulary trousers have been faked to very high standards for a good while.
                          Really, like the CG HG wraparound? (“Is that a real poncho...I mean. Is that a Mexican poncho. Or is that a Sears poncho? Hmmm...no foolin” Frank Zappa, Camarillo Brillo, Over-Nite Sensation, 1973.)

                          B. N. Singer

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                            Originally posted by B. N. Singer View Post
                            Really, like the CG HG wraparound? (“Is that a real poncho...I mean. Is that a Mexican poncho. Or is that a Sears poncho? Hmmm...no foolin” Frank Zappa, Camarillo Brillo, Over-Nite Sensation, 1973.)

                            B. N. Singer
                            Mr Singer were you giving a or were you entertaing some doubt?

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                              Originally posted by B. N. Singer View Post
                              Really, like the CG HG wraparound? (“Is that a real poncho...I mean. Is that a Mexican poncho. Or is that a Sears poncho? Hmmm...no foolin” Frank Zappa, Camarillo Brillo, Over-Nite Sensation, 1973.)

                              B. N. Singer
                              Mr. Singer are you OK with these trousers as originals?

                              I would be concerned and focused in my look(If I was assessing it) that the CG wrap could be a from the ground up fake. Those who examined it in person did not seem to think that it was, but others may reach different conclusions.

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