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    A DAK solders progress through the War and black DAK Ct.

    I have been sent a few photos from a fellow member, which I have sent to Mark for posting.
    First is him at home in his early tropical tunic after leaving Afrika do to a tropical illness in late '41, He belonged to the 33rd Art Regt DAK.
    He was then sent to Russia, He served in Stug Abteilung 276 and Art Abteilung 860 in the East. Here is a photo in his Art wrap as an NCO in '43 ,& his Stug III. Next is him as an Officer in '44.
    Last are some of his awards including an early black DAK CT that he said everyone in his unit recieved and did not think it was that special...

    All comments welcome, Thanks Tim
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      And the man's awards. Sensational (my comment!)
      Mark.
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        #4
        Äh WOW!

        I never believed in the band shown in the Williamson/McGuirl book, but now we have a second example and a story AND a unit. Maybe we can find a picture of them in wear?

        All the best,
        Andreas

        - Are better detailed pics of the band possible?

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          #5
          The CT is definitely a screamer, thanks for sharing the great period photos too.

          Richard

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            #6
            Thanks Mark for getting this posted. Right off the mantlepiece.

            The photo of the Ct is the only one, as its underglass in a frame. But confirms this version and though he did not think it that special at the time, sure we would all disagree....

            Also thanks to the original owner and the member that sent me these great photos.

            Heia Safari !

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              #7
              What is significant here is that Williamson/McGuirl quite reasonably assumed that the cuff band was produced for the few SS personnel serving in North Africa.

              Now we have firm evidence that examples were issued to, and worn by, members of a Heer artillery regiment.

              Mike

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                #8
                Thanks Tim for sharing these wonderful images and a big thanks for including the pic of the black DAK CT , I too always thought these to be fantasy ,, if anyone else out there has an image of one in wear that would certainly be the cream on this years Christmas cake ( so to speak ) ..
                and of course we must thank Mark for getting these images out quick smart ..

                Merry Christmas to all
                Paul l k.

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                  #9
                  Hello,

                  Here's a couple links regarding the black Afrikakorps c.t. They definately existed.

                  http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ck+afrikakorps

                  http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ck+afrikakorps

                  I did once see a shortened (cut off) black Afrikakorps c.t. in the same script as the example in post 3. However, it had white thread stitched lettering and silver wire borders. I'd like to see more photos please.

                  C.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by vizenz View Post
                    Maybe we can find a picture of them in wear?
                    I had one, but sold it to a forum member.

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                      Originally posted by Mike Swan View Post
                      What is significant here is that Williamson/McGuirl quite reasonably assumed that the cuff band was produced for the few SS personnel serving in North Africa.

                      Now we have firm evidence that examples were issued to, and worn by, members of a Heer artillery regiment.

                      Mike
                      Hi Mike

                      Thanks for the comment. I have been contacted by several members that have photographic evidence of these in use during the War, both Herr and LW. Not ss. Though it is similar to an ss type CT. Interestingly the photos are of European tunics not tropical ones.

                      I am a little disappointed in the lack of overall response to this thread. This is truly ground breaking stuff that every collector, not just tropical collectors should be very excited about. This Ct is the screamer of all cufftitles and deserves more appreciation than it is getting....

                      Also thanks to Andreas, & Richard, & Paul in showing the recognition it deserves.

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                        Originally posted by DAKcollector1 View Post
                        Hello,

                        Here's a couple links regarding the black Afrikakorps c.t. They definately existed.

                        I did once see a shortened (cut off) black Afrikakorps c.t. in the same script as the example in post 3. However, it had white thread stitched lettering and silver wire borders. I'd like to see more photos please.

                        C.
                        Hi Christopher

                        Thanks for the links to the other Black AKCT which is much more common than this version. Though extremely rare in itself. This DAK Ct has only been in the hands of the DAK Vet himself and now his widow. There are no more photos of this CT available, as this one has been underglass for the last 60+ years...we are lucky to even see this much. An author/collector of one of the largest DAK collections has confirmed this piece in several wartime photos being worn by both the Herr & LW.
                        Last edited by Tim O'Keefe; 12-29-2010, 02:42 AM.

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                          Originally posted by Gran Sasso View Post
                          I had one, but sold it to a forum member.
                          Hi

                          Was it the black AKCT as Christopher's photo demonstrates or the black DAK CT as seen in post # 3 ? Either way it is very special photo and the member must be smiling...

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                            Sensational find Mark!! Here it is as Patrick stated. It is the only photo I have ever seen of this CT is wear so far (I have heard of another one, but never seen it).
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                              Hi Edgar

                              Just Outstanding !

                              Also thanks to NZMark for helping me get this posted on the Forum and the original owner from the 33rd Art Regt DAK.
                              Last edited by Tim O'Keefe; 12-29-2010, 03:00 AM.

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