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    Army Stug wearing LW GAB - or LW-soldier wearing army tunic?

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    Definitely Heer, most likely ex-Felddivision as the former Luftwaffe field divisions were incorporated into the Army in '44. Possibly former Flak personel as many of these were taken into VG units as the borders of the Reich constricted. You will also often see Kriegsmarine awards on German infantry late in the war.

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      #3
      Even high qualified pilots had to serve as "Kanonefutter" by the end of the war.

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        And don't forget that excellent Heer machinegunners were sometimes taken into the Luftwaffe for the air gunner.

        Note the infantry assault badge on the luft NCO.

        Bob Hritz
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        In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

        Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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          Great photos and observations that may clear up a lot of questions.

          Richard

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            #6
            A very common practice among the members of the Stug Abteilung of the Luftwaffe field divisions. Here are members of the Stug Abteilung of 21.Feld Division (Lw).

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              Originally posted by Bob Hritz View Post
              And don't forget that excellent Heer machinegunners were sometimes taken into the Luftwaffe for the air gunner.

              Note the infantry assault badge on the luft NCO.

              Bob Hritz
              Great photo, Bob. Could also be another FD photo of a NCO wearing the Heer version rather than the Luftwaffe version of the ground assault badge. No way to really tell.

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                #8
                I think that they all are LW Field Division! Very cool photos!!!

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                  Originally posted by Bob Hritz View Post
                  Note the infantry assault badge on the luft NCO.

                  Bob Hritz
                  And don't you own today that same IAB, and with a few other wonderful things from that day in 1945, too?

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                    Originally posted by Leroy View Post
                    And don't you own today that same IAB, and with a few other wonderful things from that day in 1945, too?

                    Yes, that would be correct.

                    Bob Hritz
                    In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

                    Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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                      Originally posted by Jack Melvin View Post
                      Great photo, Bob. Could also be another FD photo of a NCO wearing the Heer version rather than the Luftwaffe version of the ground assault badge. No way to really tell.

                      Jack,

                      This photo is from a large group I got from a US lieutenant who accepted the surrender of Kurt Lau, Karl Kennel, Hans Schwirblatt and their crews from Geschwader Immelmann at Kinzigen, on May 8, 1945. They were all flight troops.

                      Bob Hritz
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                      In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

                      Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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                        Originally posted by OSS View Post
                        Definitely Heer, most likely ex-Felddivision as the former Luftwaffe field divisions were incorporated into the Army in '44. Possibly former Flak personel as many of these were taken into VG units as the borders of the Reich constricted. You will also often see Kriegsmarine awards on German infantry late in the war.
                        Why ex-LW Felddivision? Many Heer units were used to fill gaps in Felddivision ranks and transferred to LW Felddivisions. Also LW Felddivisions were equipped by Heer when they were transferred under Heer in '44. This guy could be both 'former' Heer now in LW Felddivision or LW in Felddivision wearing Heer uniform. Or indeed former LW now in Heer. It is all possible.

                        Erik

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                          Is this a single image or is it from a grouping? Much information might be gleaned from the other more mundane images...

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                            Originally posted by Scott Joseph View Post
                            Is this a single image or is it from a grouping? Much information might be gleaned from the other more mundane images...
                            I guess you mean my foto - its a single of course (would have posted more if there would have been any...)

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                              Bob, there is a way to tell, then! Another great photo.

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