What is this tunic? Sonderfuhrer?

[WWIIBuff]

Hello Gentlemen,

This tunic was part of a small lot of items I bought a while back. Can you tell me what this was for and if it looks right or not.

Thanks
John

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[Dave Suter]

Good news and bad news. The tunic and shoulder boards are for a Sonderfuhrer. The grey collar indicates that that is what it was in the beginning. The collar tabs are replacements. They are for a Beamten (Official). Sonderfuhrer tabs were on grey, silver litze and no piping. Can't tell from the photo - is the breast eagle on grey? If so, it is probably original to the tunic, as Sonderfuhreren were by regulation to have the eagle done on grey - although most just used the green-backed ones. The sleeve insignia is almost certainly not original to the tunic. Anyway, this is what the collar tabs should look like - (notice the direction of the pointed end of the litze bar).

[DonC]

Good morning!

I also question the placement of the Narvik shield - should it not be on the opposite sleeve? It's hard to tell, but the award loops look a little sloppy, and it would be fairly tough for a REMF to have a combat bar...

Don

[WWIIBuff]

Mystery Tunic

Thanks for the info Dave. I had a feeling this was a mix-and-match piece. I believe the eagle is on grey backing but the collar is blue not grey (medical?) just like the backing of the boards.

Don I think the award loops were a sloppy addition by the previous owner. The Narvik shield is typically worn on the other sleeve, I don't know if there are any exceptions to that rule.

The tunic itself is in great shape, I don't know what I'm going to do with it though. Do you guys know what type of value I might be able to put on this if I decide to just sell it off?

Thanks
John

[K Bandow]

I would say at LEAST remove the Narvik Shield and Gebirgsjaeger patch. That would make it look a little better. Also ask around if anyone has a single set of Sonderfuhrer collar tabs. I will look very pretty at that point.

[Dave Suter]

Your collar is the correct color. In most cases what was used is Luftwaffe tunic material - which is what yours appears to be. I've seen a number of shade variations of Sonderfuhrer 'grey.'

As for value, a 100% original will go from $750 to around $1100 (these are dealer prices). If it were mine, I'd carefully unstitch a portion of the bottom of the sleeve patches to see if the sleeve material is darker. If it isn't, I'd get rid of them. They scream 'post-war addition.' And, of course, replace the collar tabs.