Forum, I have two patches I want to sell on estand. First I want a thumbs up and also the value. Regards, Bill
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The first edelweiss is widely accepted by the collecting community as a mid war patch and indeed are quite common. I have one of these in my collection and even though they pass a UV light test I am and never will be totally convinced by these patches that they are the real deal but that is just my opinion.
The second patch is regarded as a privately made officers patch. Not my level of expertise Im afraid so I cant pass judgment on it.
Sorry I am not much help but you can confidently put the first patch on estand.Comment
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The first one has been said. But for the second one, I'm really not convinced at all. The base material is very strange, it seems, that the middle of the flower is unfinished, however some backing is already glued on. And this kind of backing reminds me of those Pakistan fakes. Just my 2 cents, but I really don't like the second one.Comment
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You could be right. I would like more opinions though. I do appreciate the help. They had come together from a soldiers war booty and it wouldn't make sense for this particular person to have a fake. Regards, BillComment
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Thats a shame no else has chimed in on this as there is a least one guy who is pretty knowledgeable on these office tailor made patches...perhaps he hasnt seen it yet but I agree with Bill....not keen on it at all. Hopefully Sanders will chime in on this.Comment
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other officers Edelweiss for comparison:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=edelweiss
I PM'd Sander VW to comment.
I actually like the thing...ok it's off the norm and perhaps we'll never know with these private purchased and hand tailored insignia. Although Bill says it was war booty...(ofcourse don't buy the story).Last edited by Dmv; 07-19-2010, 05:18 AM.Comment
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Before I had decided to sell these. I did some internet surfing to find smiliar backings and found a few. One previous comment about mine was the cheap look to the back. No doubt repops are plagueing the collecting world. We all have bought items from the veterans wife or veteran and we pretty much can be sure are good. This is how I acquired these edelweiss's. If you buy one at a flea market or gun show, you cannot always be sure. But for the sake of an interested buyer I decided to post for comments. Thanks for the samples and opinions. BillComment
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Hi,
The first one, as said is accepted as an original example...although I never saw one in use. I also own 3 variants of this type but I'm still not convinced of there existance in WW2.
About the second one. My first opinion was NO WAY. But after I looked closer I changed my mind. First of all, the backing reminds me of a lot of original examples. The use of the bullion treath, which is very hard to do is also a positive point. So I think this is a good one but an ugly one.
I also never saw one of these before like all other fakes that go around these days.
I would like to take it when you sell it by the way.Comment
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My opinion for what it is worth:
- the first one is a legit one, I have seen examples coming out from vets and those were unsewn from tunics and used, so my two cents is that they are original period.
The thing with those is that there's no period picture to prove they were there as you always see the green backed ones; besides huge quantities have been popping out lately in perfect condition, so they are quite common. I have read that GJ didn't like this short of edelweiss and preferred the green backed ones...maybe a mumbo-jumbo
-the second one I must admit that I like it so far and totally agree with Sander and would classify it as a private purchase, in here someone made it for the soldier, most likely an officer.
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Out of interest what do you think of this one..Comment
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I am sorry about the poor quality of the picture above but that is the only one I have. Notice the similarity with the original edelweiss posted on this thread. The edelweiss I posted is a repro and sold by a firm in America.
Compare this example with all other accepted edelweiss patches. The level of detail is missing...no veins on the leaf and flowers is the main difference. Even the Bevo edelweiss have more detail which is why I have doubts about these so called mid war patches. Whilst they do pass a UV light test this is not a 100% guarantee as I have a repro SS cufftitle which also passes a UV light test.Comment
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Lemm,
The absence of veins on the leaves doesent indicate anything.
Original SS Edelweiss, both cap and arm certainly dont have veins, so why should Army versions have to have them.In fact many repros over-emphasise this detail.
Certainly the pictured version you posted looks close in a pic but so do many reproductions of other insignia.
The devils in the details and your posted reproduction when scrutinised in comparison fails several points in regards to the first posted example, which i would consider original.
1)Embroidery weave.
2)reverse weave.
3)Thread type.
4)Wool backing.
These all differ and are obvious when comparing the two when held in hand and under magnification.Comment
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