Panzer Wrapper Officer

[Johnny R]

Forever is a long time, much before the War. Maybe they are original but I am hesistant to think so. I would expect to see a smaller number under the S and a more central placement, especially for senior officer as cadre. Looking at all of it as a whole I would guess the tunic was built from being a stripped original EM but that is just my feeling. Sorry,

[Daniele C]

Forever is a long time, much before the War. Maybe they are original but I am hesistant to think so. I would expect to see a smaller number under the S and a more central placement, especially for senior officer as cadre. Looking at all of it as a whole I would guess the tunic was built from being a stripped original EM but that is just my feeling. Sorry,

No probs,but i dont agree absoloutely(about the boards)having the jacket in my hand.

[phild]

Daniele,

The most important thing is you have an original wrap...that in itself beats most of the posted wraps. The tabs look like good original rayon piped tabs, they have most likely been replaced as you said per your observation and the poor machine sewing of same(tension not adjusted properly). No matter, they are original and look good.

The boards, I would say original boards with letters and numbers added for appearance sake, as stated by Pz Bob and others, they don't make any sense. Obviously the wrap originally had bridles for slip on boards and it was converted to sew ins. That was quite common, but these are not correctly sewn in as stitches are showing. When sewn in properly all stitching is invisible and hidden by the shoulder seam. I would say collector done. They can be repaired, so no big deal in the long run.

The breast eagle looks original, but there are some funny colors going on. Possibly was a green backed eagle at one time and some one dyed it with black felt pen. That would account for the green and reddish tints to some of the fibers. Again, not a big deal and can be fixed if desired.

I don't think your belt hook holes have been closed as they look perfectly normal. I also didn't see any signs of tailoring that you mentioned. I do like the replaced adjusting strap done with NCO tresse, nice touch.

Overall you have a fine wrap that needs some tuning up in spots to be a nice restoration of an original combat wrapper. Respectfully,

Richard

Ditto! I think that is a great summation of what he has.

[Johnny R]

Ditto! I think that is a great summation of what he has.

We all agree, I just went out farther on the pier. This is a great pallete to work from.

[Steinar]

Very nice wrapper

[Tim O'Keefe]

Hi!
I won't comment on the originality of the boards, or the collar tabs, since I don't want to do that from the photos, but I will comment on the meaning of the S1's. Normally, they would have been for a member of Schützen-Regiment 1 of the 1. Panzer-Division. Of course, S1 became PGR 1 in late 1942, if memory serves me correctly. Regardless, it was eventually redesigned as a Panzergrenadier-Regimnet. The Waffenfarbe was pink, however.
That said, it does not make any sense to me that a Panzergrenadier officer would wear a black wrap.
Although there was no Panzerschule in Munster (Minsterlager), that is all part of Camp Senne, not far from Paderborn, where there were a number of armored training establishments (Tiger, SS and run-of-the-mill tankers). I am not aware of the combination of S1 to denote a school, however.
I do not recall any armor-related training establishment at Münster, but I stand to be corrected and do not have access to Ritgen's book on armor school at hand right now.
Regards,
Bob

Hi Dani

While I can not comment constructively on the wrap itself.
Agree with Bob's post. The S and # 1 denote Schutzen regt #1 later a PzGr regt. Early Pz Div units wore pink piping regardless of vocation within the Div.
The straps you mentioned on Collector's Guild would designate #2 Schutzen regt etc. later PzGr again...notice location of cyphers too. Still very nice

with kind regards
Tim

[Daniele C]

Thanks Tim,

Id like to hear other opinions as well!

Daniele

[Luca Ongaro]

Well Daniele the wrap is very desiderable
Tabs and boards are original but by pictures posted I would say insignia is not original applied, I could be in wrong and I can not be sure just by pictures.
I let you the verdict
Luca

[Daniele C]

Thanks Luca
Im really happy with this Wrapper!

[Lombardi]

Nice Wrap, replaced boards (it seems that Pz Major boards are easy to find, I see many of them around)

[Daniele C]

Nice Wrap, replaced boards (it seems that Pz Major boards are easy to find, I see many of them around)

Thanks,but its not true

[paddywhack]

well dan all you need now is a p38+holster and cap to set the whole thing off!!