Neat Vet Group of Volunteer Shields!

[Askold]

Here are my printed volunteers:

[RobertE]

You've got some nice ones there! Your Lithuanian patch has the black banner at the top, unlike mine, which shows again that even among the more common patches, there are variations.

[Askold]

There are about 4 or 5 variations of the printed Lithuanian shield. You can see all of them in Angola book. Its interesting, because unlike other volunteers Lithuanians didn't contribute much to WH and yet there are so many variations.

[RobertE]

Askold, Angolia does a good job of showing a number of variations and thanks for reminding us of this excellent reference series. Oddly enough, he doesn't show any of the variant that started this thread: all his have the banner cap in black on the top, while the posted example is devoid of any such adornment.

[Askold]

Well Robert, you can say that you have the one variant that even Angola didn't have However I must say that your variant is perhaps the most standard one. This particular pattern was quite popular as Germans also produced Latvian and Estonian variants. Iv'e seen number of used up Estonian ones. The reason why those shields don't have the cut-off lines is because they were produced in strips.

[R.Howard]

Those are some nice shields....too bad I can't afford any yet... ... do you guys mind If I save the photos of the Lithuanian shields?

Askold- that's a nice Crimean Tatar shield....I haven't seen one with a red background until now.....

[Askold]

Thanks Rikhart, there is also a variation of the Tartar shield in blue that is purposely avoiding my collection.

[R.Howard]

I think I've seen the blue Crimean shields before......After I get my reenacting uniforms together, foreign shields will most likley be the first thing I buy......i enjoy all volunteer shields, but I like the look of the Estonian shield with the 3 lions and the ukrainian shields.....the closest thing i have to real foreign volunteer shields are my 1:6th ones....I've put in over a year of R & D into them....

These are the 2 newest ones I used....last one I worked on was one of the Hungarian ones....

[RobertE]

Well Robert, you can say that you have the one variant that even Angola didn't have However I must say that your variant is perhaps the most standard one. This particular pattern was quite popular as Germans also produced Latvian and Estonian variants. Iv'e seen number of used up Estonian ones. The reason why those shields don't have the cut-off lines is because they were produced in strips.

Askold, I explained myself poorly. It's not the cut lines that are absent from these shields on my example, but the black banner at the top; I digitally applied it to one of my shields on the left. All of the Angolia shields show the black area at the top like i've drawn in; some with country name and others just a plain box, but all have this feature.

I thought it was interesting that these ones don't - yet another variation!

[Askold]

Oh I knew exactly what you meant I added that bit of info because there was an earlier talk about the cut lines.

[Dmv]

Askold, I explained myself poorly. It's not the cut lines that are absent from these shields on my example, but the black banner at the top; I digitally applied it to one of my shields on the left. All of the Angolia shields show the black area at the top like i've drawn in; some with country name and others just a plain box, but all have this feature.

I thought it was interesting that these ones don't - yet another variation!

Robert, Angolia did knew of the existence of your variant: there's a drawing of it in the Uniforms and Traditions of the German Army vol.2 page 344 !