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    #16
    Originally posted by george nieuwenb View Post
    thanks for the pics but this shirt is the trikot shirt as Ernst-h stated. this fabric is stretchable, as cotton is not and the cottonone is the one I mean
    this trikot is also offwhite to yellowish and the cottonshirts are white.
    so anyway thanks for the pictures and is there an other forummember who has the cottonshirt?
    greetings George

    Seems like there's a little confusion about the difference between fabric content and fabric weave. Tricot (trikot) is a type of weave and can be woven from a number of different fabric fibers, including cotton, wool, and the synthetics such as polyester. So, you can have cotton Tricot, wool Tricot, etc.

    And you're correct in that Tricot is stretchable. The main characteristic of Tricot is that it is, for the most part, a weave that behaves like a knit, making is drape better than plain weave or twill weave, and it holds it shape better over the years. That's why designers use it.

    The wool tricot we see in German uniforms is actually tricotine, which is heavier in weight than genuine tricot, which is lightweight and used mostly in linings and undergarments.

    I believe having a basic understanding of fabrics and garment construction is extremely helpful in the field of collecting uniforms. It makes describing those tunics or breeches easier, and can help identify a fake by a mistake in construction. Knowing all the alternative construction and tailoring methods can also be the key to validating a garment that would otherwise be dismissed as fake.

    The white Heereshemd pictured is most likely a cotton knit fabric.

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      #17
      Wefts and Warps, no Star Trek involved.

      Originally posted by vbergman1 View Post
      Seems like there's a little confusion about the difference between fabric content and fabric weave. Tricot (trikot) is a type of weave and can be woven from a number of different fabric fibers, including cotton, wool, and the synthetics such as polyester. So, you can have cotton Tricot, wool Tricot, etc.

      And you're correct in that Tricot is stretchable. The main characteristic of Tricot is that it is, for the most part, a weave that behaves like a knit, making is drape better than plain weave or twill weave, and it holds it shape better over the years. That's why designers use it.

      The wool tricot we see in German uniforms is actually tricotine, which is heavier in weight than genuine tricot, which is lightweight and used mostly in linings and undergarments.

      I believe having a basic understanding of fabrics and garment construction is extremely helpful in the field of collecting uniforms. It makes describing those tunics or breeches easier, and can help identify a fake by a mistake in construction. Knowing all the alternative construction and tailoring methods can also be the key to validating a garment that would otherwise be dismissed as fake.

      The white Heereshemd pictured is most likely a cotton knit fabric.
      I agree, understanding the manufacturing techniques and fabrics will save you loads of pain. Most fakes even when aged and looking "old" are made using the wrong materials and techniques. Good point, Vbergman1

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        #18
        thanks for all the reply but I still don't see any pics of the shirt I mentioned in my earlier posts. so is there anyone who has a Heereshemd and is willing to share the pictures.

        greetings George

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          #19
          Originally posted by george nieuwenb View Post
          thanks for all the reply but I still don't see any pics of the shirt I mentioned in my earlier posts. so is there anyone who has a Heereshemd and is willing to share the pictures.

          greetings George
          Why don't you ask in the Living History area, those guys probably have patterns for them, that is what you need not pictures of an original. As noted the ones you can buy in the States are excat copies and I would be amazed if they cost more than a custom shirt or two would cost to be made in a new pattern the would need to figure out from photos. I would just buy one.

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            #20
            Originally posted by stroh View Post
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            Are these buttons pressed paper ones? Do they have any marking on the other side?
            Cheers!

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