Naval Coastal Artillery uniforms !

[Carl Ellingstad]

Search all internet, with no luck in finding a good site with detailed description of Naval Coastal Artillery uniforms that shows the different models of tunics and other details. do any of you have a good link ?

Carl

[Oldenburg]

Coastal artillery

Hello Carl
You can try weize.net who has some for sale.
Find enclosed a photo from Mr Weitze's site.
In coastal artillery you have three model of jacket, always without pocket at the bottom (see the photo), first model is the M35/36 with green collar like in the HEER, second model is the M40 with the form of the breast pockets like the HEER M40 and the M42 with the breast pockets like the M42 in HEER.
The only difference is in the breast pocket which change between 40 and 42.
The jacket presented there is a M40 (see the pockets).
Coastal artillery jackets never had bottom pockets but sometimes, members of the coastal artillery get Heer jackets because the materials are the same.
I hope my english sound clear, if you need more informations do not hesitate to ask.
Best regards
eric

[Carl Ellingstad]

Thanks ! I have provided a M40 model with WH lower pockets, but its with belt loops holes only on the back ! Inside the belt hook strap is sewn in the liner like in M42 models. It have original applied collar patches and eagle for Naval coastal artillery. Since its been manufactured this way from the fabric is it possible that its foreign manufacture ? The markings in the liner is only sizes.
But the shoulder boards are with a brownish color than the rest and have crossed anchors, like Schiffstamm !<center><img src=http://www.traubensaft.org/kystart.jpg></center>
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[Oldenburg]

Jacket

At first look
Your jacket looks like a m40 of the Heer but the inside is the same than a coastal artillery jacket, for the moment I have no explaination, I will have a look in my books if I can find something.
The shoulder straps are very nice, the anchor are destinated to the men with anti-ship weapons, for the anti-aircraft the sign on the shoulderstraps is a flying bomb like on the photo bellow.
Best regards
eric

[Oldenburg]

Do you have some close-up of the eagle and the collar patches?
eric

[Carl Ellingstad]

The breast eagle is the rayon machine woven model. The collar patches is without wollen background, sewn directly to the collar, center white stripe and two yellow stripes ! I will see if I can get some decent close up photos of it.

Carl

[Carl Ellingstad]

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<center> Here is close up of the insigna </center>

[Oldenburg]

Hello carl
i'm still looking to find any explainations for the jacket but for the moment I don't have any.
If i find anything I will contact you
Best regards
eric

[JOHN VD HEIJDEN]

butons,

hello carl are there buttons on it
and eric i have seen severallcoastall artillery marine jackets
were are full bottem-pockets are on them

with best regards john

[Carl Ellingstad]

Strange enough, the buttons was ordinary grey painted WH/SS pebbled buttons, I suspect that they might be replaced either period or post war, but stiched with "correct thread" !

Carl

[Oldenburg]

Hello John
Of course there are a lot of jackets with bottom pocket and coastal artillery insignia, but in the regulation, coastal artillery has got his own uniform with looks similar to Heer but has you can see with the photo from Mr Weitze, the bottom pockets are hided under the uniform.
That kind of uniform was expensive to do so, sometimes, the navy took army uniforms for the coastal artillery.
What is strange with the Carl's jacket is that the exterior looks like a normal Heer uniform with the four pockets but the inside is a coastal artillery one with the holes only at the back.
May be the "33" stamp should be the year as we can see in all the germans jackets, it should be interesting to get photos of the first model of jacket used by the Heer just after the Reichwehr witch was used before the famous m36.
I will have a look if I can find photos of this jacket.
Best regards
eric

[Carl Ellingstad]

If it was a model earlier than M36, wouldnt have sewn-in shoulder boards ? There are no traces after sewn-in boards, but the strap for slip-on are original applied !!

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi, the jacket you have is a M33. You were to correct to think that the marking was for the date. Slip on shoulder straps are 100% correct for this tunic. Try and buy a copy of the French magazine "Militaria" for April 2003. Issue number 213. Price 6.20 Euros. There is a great article on this little known feldbluse in it with lots of good colour pictures. Text is French but easy to follow
Hope this helps you?
Cheers, Ade.

[Carl Ellingstad]

What kind of buttons would be correct for this M33 tunic, when I provided it, it was with grey pebbled buttons !!

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Carl, the grey pebbled ones are fine
Cheers, Ade.